He is far from 18. Why do we just accept these ridiculous ages from the African athletes?
Some would call it “black privilege”. It applies to the continent as whole sometimes. If Kenya were a European nation, they’d have been banned years ago. All they do is laugh at the stupidity that allows them to carry on.
The arguments regarding accusing past greats as dopers is nonsense. Yes, Elliot would've been likely to be a doper if hundreds of Australians had been banned in the 50's and 60's for cheating. This latest Kenyan looks very much like a Katir style scenario. I hope they get him.
The arguments regarding accusing past greats as dopers is nonsense. Yes, Elliot would've been likely to be a doper if hundreds of Australians had been banned in the 50's and 60's for cheating. This latest Kenyan looks very much like a Katir style scenario. I hope they get him.
Why even do the drug testing, when you already know Koech is doping? Is this based on skin color? I doubt Koech can run 4:43 and 7:17. Do you hope they bust Jakob?
A new Noureddine Morceli level coming, that will smash everything in his path.
Kelsall is less of a reporter than the LR overlords. Athletics Illustrated as a "publication" is the equivalent of a high school student's blog or MySpace page
He is far from 18. Why do we just accept these ridiculous ages from the African athletes?
Some would call it “black privilege”. It applies to the continent as whole sometimes. If Kenya were a European nation, they’d have been banned years ago. All they do is laugh at the stupidity that allows them to carry on.
ya
we should take care of our african buddies
which has nothing to do with enabling cheating and the destruction of the sports integrity
this 18 year old in his second race with the receding hairline .... 3 seconds faster than Ovett .. 5 seconds faster than Walker, 2 seconds faster than Aouita, as fast as Jacob
from a country rife with ped cheating and age cheating
from a country with 209 lady marathoners
from a country on top of the corruption index
it is time to toss this country out for a year, and see what happens, you need to embarrass the government and create an uproar nationally
else these self serving governments will do NOTHING but gaslight and patronize with useless rhetoric.
Personally I find this hard to also believe - it's not quite as obviously absurd as Ruth Chepngetich clearly was, but it's not far off. Then again that's just my opinion.
But this piece is absolutely terrible in terms of identifying and piecing together what is ultimately circumstantial evidence. As much as I believe that things are so bad in Kenya it's time to move onto a more drastic course correction, if you want to be writing opinion pieces using these forms of evidence/logic, it doesn't serve you well if it's this vague.
"Look at him compared to El G"
"Teenagers in Kenya have been caught for doping before".
I hope AIU bans this obvious age cheat soon. Or the 1500m will be ruined.
For age cheating? His age doesn't matter - he's running open mens races. He could be 15 or he could be 52 - he's running in the senior mens category.
With respect to "ruining" the 1500m - was that ironic? Aren't we there already?
The event has moved on/matured to what seems like a natural(ish) deviation at the top of the event with one guy under 3.27, a handful of guys under 3.28, more under 3.29 and the "peleton" in the 3.29/30 range - and yet Jakobs 3.26.74 is the only time in the last quarter century plus, within 1 second of the WR. All this despite improvements training methodology, the utilization of that training in physically executing a race (thanks to wavelight) and better product (spikes) etc.
If it turns out he is 22 and age cheated his way into the World U20 championships last year, then I don't know if the AIU can ban him, but Athletics Kenya were talking tough last year about taking those steps against age cheaters. They supposedly had over 20 suspected age cheats, many who had competed at the World U20 Championships, but still haven't released their findings. But Coe has stated only that he 'might' be willing to strip age cheats of medals won in Junior competitions (link below).
I think that poster means that we are or were in the best period for 1500m running since the start of the EPO era. We have guys at the top who most of us can reasonably believe to be clean, and it's really difficult to pick a winner. All the tech is now finally enabling likely clean runners to approach or even surpass EL G's EPO WRs. Laros appears to have made that next step up and could soon establish himself as the successor of Jakob - and who has the finishing speed to consistently win global championships.
But we are all fearing that Koech could be unstoppable by the time Tokyo comes around, and maybe even faster next year if he isn't caught. Can you imagine if Koech becomes the man to break El G's record with a 3:25.2 and Jakob is second in the same race with 3:25.7?
World Athletics President Sebastian Coe says that cases of confirmed age cheating could lead to the stripping of medals and nullification of results. #AthleticsIntegrityUnit #AthleticsKenya #JacksonTuwei
But we are all fearing that Koech could be unstoppable by the time Tokyo comes around, and maybe even faster next year if he isn't caught. Can you imagine if Koech becomes the man to break El G's record with a 3:25.2 and Jakob is second in the same race with 3:25.7?
Yeah I'm not so sure about that. There is another thread about the Tokyo 1500m and I had Koech on my watchlist of guys who have never won before simply because this has been the trend over the last decade of the event (new winners over the last 8 major champs). But do I really think he's rolling in there a-la El G in Seville and just pounding everyone? No. He's more likely to pull a Silas Kiplagat than he is an El G.
I also can't really imagine him breaking the WR. I could be completely wrong but I've seen enough "fast" Kenyans in this event come and go over the years to not get too wound up about it. If he isn't legit (I'm not speculating) - how much better is he than Kiprop who used drugs to win at least 3 world titles and he "only" ran 3.26.69. 3.26.0 is just so far off and hasn't really held up well in history in terms of believability - unless one wants to believe El G was at least 2 seconds up the track on Jakob in todays environment.
Back to Koech, not a lot of fear from my side here.
But we are all fearing that Koech could be unstoppable by the time Tokyo comes around, and maybe even faster next year if he isn't caught. Can you imagine if Koech becomes the man to break El G's record with a 3:25.2 and Jakob is second in the same race with 3:25.7?
Yeah I'm not so sure about that. There is another thread about the Tokyo 1500m and I had Koech on my watchlist of guys who have never won before simply because this has been the trend over the last decade of the event (new winners over the last 8 major champs). But do I really think he's rolling in there a-la El G in Seville and just pounding everyone? No. He's more likely to pull a Silas Kiplagat than he is an El G.
I also can't really imagine him breaking the WR. I could be completely wrong but I've seen enough "fast" Kenyans in this event come and go over the years to not get too wound up about it. If he isn't legit (I'm not speculating) - how much better is he than Kiprop who used drugs to win at least 3 world titles and he "only" ran 3.26.69. 3.26.0 is just so far off and hasn't really held up well in history in terms of believability - unless one wants to believe El G was at least 2 seconds up the track on Jakob in todays environment.
Back to Koech, not a lot of fear from my side here.
Well we do not know that Kiprop “used drugs to win at least 3 world titles.” We can say that is probably the case but we do not know that. When you wrote “not a lot of fear from my side here,” what is that supposed to mean? Why would there be any possibility of fear? Do you fear a black man holding the 1500m record or winning gold? Or what would the fear be?
