Biological male is suing Princeton University and Leone Timing as they wouldn't let 'her' run in women's division at track meet

Was at this meet "Sadie" also entered under a pseudonym or "she" would have gotten booted prior to the entry list even being accepted.

The trans will go to any length to be the "victim"

Or you can compete in your biological gender, or get treatment for your mental health disorder.

Transgenderism is the dumbest recent fad

Not sure this is true.

You can look at the start list and see that Sadie Schreiner is on there under 46th.

I don't agree that trans should be running in the women's division but the evidence suggests they did compete under their new given name.

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AcceptedEntries - Larry Ellis 2025 (PDF)

AcceptedEntries - Larry Ellis 2025 (PDF)

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Guess I saw the updated heat sheet when it came out and assumed. Thanks for the info.

Princeton should have caught it pre meet

Surely you don't expect the Letsrun crowd to know anything about world cultures, do you? Of course they don't.

And of course you're exactly correct about multiple genders. It's not common, but it's certainly out there and has been. Polynesians, Native Americans....

Why should we care? Some cultures murder guys and transgenders. Are you saying we should do the same?

Exactly. Some cultures eat dogs. Some cultures don't allow women to drive. Some cultures throw gays off of roofs. We dont do any of that because our culture deems it wrong. In OUR culture, we don't want men showering with girls in locker rooms, men sharing bathrooms with girls, or men dominating girls at sports. Those things are considered wrong in our culture and will remain that way despite leftists trying to pervert society

The so-called "start list" you posted is from the afternoon of May 1st. The time and date says "4:36 PM 5/1/2025."

But the meet at issue - the 2025 Larry Ellis Invitational - took place on the afternoon and evening of May 2 and the late morning and afternoon of May 3.

The track running races were held on Saturday May 3.

So rather than a "start list," that document appears to be a list of athletes who registered online prior to the deadline (4/28/25 @ 12PM EST) and had their entries accepted.

Also, the May 1st list you posted shows that Sadie Schreiner was registered to run the women's 100 meter dash as well as the women's 200 at the LEI. Schreiner is number 31 on the women's 100 meter list dated May 1.

Confusingly, the May 1st list you posted was published under a misleading heading which called it the meet's "Performance List." The top of every page says:

Larry Ellis Invitational - 5/2/2025 to 5/3/2025
Princeton University
Perfomance List

But the official lists stating which athletes actually competed and how well they performed in the heats and the final races at the 2025 Larry Ellis Invitational were published in an entirely separate document posted online by Leone Timing - the meet's official timekeeper, and one of the defendants in Schreiner's lawsuit - which can be found here:

https://results.leonetiming.com/?mid=7857

Sadie Schreiner's name does not appear in any of Leone Timing's published lists of official race results for any of the women's 200 or the women's 100 heats or finals that actually took place at the Larry Ellis Invitational at Princeton University on May 3. So if Schreiner did compete in one of those races, it wasn't under the name "Sadie Schreiner."

The Leone Timing results for women's 200 and 100 races actually run at the 2025 LEI also do not show an athlete with any of the other names Schreiner is known to have competed under previously (Camden Schreiner, Rose Schreiner, Sadie Rose Schreiner).

What a repugnant post, rojo. Ignoring the sporting aspect, what kind of ignorant bigot would word the title the way you did. Be better.

She should be pushing for the addition of trans women and men categories, or at the very least a nonbinary category. Due to blood cell, lung size, heart structure, red blood cell, VO2 max, muscle, and other differences that emerge during puberty, the most athletic trans men are likely to get steamrolled by the most athletic cis men, and the most athletic trans women will steamroll the most athletic cis women. It's not just estrogen and testosterone, there's a whole lot more that happens during puberty, and not all of it is reversible.

Another solution? California handled the high jump situation well by adding extra slots to the girls' competition so that Hernandez could be in the girls' flight but got scored separately. We have computers. Let people compete in their gender but score it separately depending on if the gender and biological sex match or not.

Crazy you got into Princeton. Imagine how big the silver spoon was growing up.

They have done this in some events, but the anti-trans people still complain.

It was alleged that they entered under a pseudonym. There is a list of entries prior to the event that shows their new legal name as entered ergo they did not enter under a pseudonym. Their name does not appear on the official race results because they were banned from competing as the thread is about.

Another mentally ill freak who wants special treatment.

I think you'll find that "gender" has a lot in common with religion and nothing in common with biology. An inconsequential concept with no anchor in reality. At least most of the religious people in Western societies have stopped imposing their beliefs on the rest of the population (maybe not in the US), but that is not true for the gender crowd. Their fervor is only matched by the likes of islamists, but results are constrained by a natural lack of numbers. That doesn't stop them from being terminally online and doing everything they can to censor, cancel and cultivate to ensure conformity as best they can.

TL;DR: Don't be an enabler.

Please enlighten us by spelling out exactly which parts of rojo's opening post and thread title are "repugnant, ignorant and bigoted" - and then do us the favor of explaining exactly why.

Handing down such edifiying insight and wisdom from on high to the ignorant bigoted hoi polloi you obviously consider way way beneath you is the least you can do to help the lowly masses to fall in line and heed your almighty command to "be better."

So give it a go, mate. What exactly is repugnant, ignorant and bigoted about rojo's post and thread title? And why?

I've heard the "other cultures" argument made many times, and it's true: some other cultures have specific places of honor for people who fall between male and female.

The one thing nobody ever talks about in those discussions of "other cultures," thought, is whether those intermediate folks compete in the men's or women's division--or whether they compete in athletics at all.

The trans still refuse to compete in it anyways

Additionally we're not going to waste an extra 4 hours each track meet so people can pretend to be a different gender

I'm saying if you have any interest in the world you live in, you should care There are a lot of cultures/societies out there, and Americans are among the worst for not realizing (or caring). Ethnocentrism is rife in this country.