The Men’s 1500m WR was set by a 23 year old

El G ran 3:26.10 in 2001.

For some reason the stars skate, but usually the training partners and/or athletes on the downside get popped. Just concidence of course.

In all of the distance track events the median age of the all-time top list is right at 24 years of age. Americans have had a slightly older median age, but I think that's because historically our Americans didn't get into elite level training until college and were a bit behind.

It doesn't look like Jakob will be ready for any big time trial efforts this year, his injury set back has made it to where he'll simply be trying to be race ready in September, and he'll probably want to do some sort of racing in August but not world record attempts. Then there won't really be anything after Tokyo this year. So no world record attempt for him this year, next year he'll be even further off that typical track peak fitness, it would be good for him to simply match his past PRs in the next couple years.

A world record is the ultimate outlier by definition, though. Depth, i.e., how many guys are running close to that ultimate outlier is a better way to determine is there’s something that’s helping guys across the board, like super shoes.

Proof that it's the shoes?

In 44 years, .82 has been taken off Coe's 800 WR 141.73 from 1981.

Is there any direct speculation that EL. G was juiced? There is certainly no direct evidence.

i think all the mile world records were broken at age 22 or 23.

as a rule.

yea, he's muslim

1 word Morocco . There isn't 1 clean athlete amongst them.

Think also many of his associates were busted

mile records and age, should have said 22 to 24 as the rule

john walker ager 23

Bayi age 21

john landy 24

ovett 24

coe 22

cram 24

aouita 25 1500 mile 27

morcelli 23

Ryan 19

Jazy 28

Elliot 22

Snell 23

Bannister 25

The outliers are Aouita Jazy and expecially Ryan

Ryan was brought to a boil with intervals, and over. I remember chatting with olympic coaches who were wide eyed with Ryans crazy records run in a very suboptimal way.... and described him to be on another level another planed alone.

the atlas mountain group. that's EPO and you can do whatever you want age wise with the juice till late 30's.

el natural and trained properly, you peak 22 to 24, and you can emulate the peak times for a couple more years. and this is for ALL distances, except long, where your peak is extended by only a few more years.

in the marathon, you need the base, but there is no real need to do track for the bulk of your peak years and avoid marathon. as we see in the near world record performances.

McRunnin provided the ages for the 1500 records earlier (not sure if you are differentiating the mile as opposed to the 1500):

"We can't glean much from a sample size of 1. Here are the last 10 records and the approximate ages of the record setter:
3:26.00 by El Guerrouj: age 23.8
3:27.37 by Morceli: age 25.3
3:28.86 by Morceli: age 22.5
3:29.46 by Aouita: age 25.8
3:29.67 by Cram: 24.7
3:30.77 by Ovett: 27.9
3:31.24 by Maree: 26.9
3:31.36 by Ovett: 24.8
3:32.1 by Ovett: 24.7
3:32.1 by Coe: 22.9
The average age was ~24.9. The median was 24.75."

Guys like Elliot and Ryun were from a different era in which few runners had "careers".

What are your "clues" beside speculations.
For 20 years, following the medias and radios ... etc, I didn't a single mention of doping about him from anyone that worked with him.

He is unfilterable.

Try your luck with googling.

Drugs or no drugs El G is the greatest 1,500m runner of all time. Most top athletes dope. El G was a class apart.

Go back and watch his races and find me a smoother miler.

Knowing that you are familiar with his races tells me you also appreciate his talent.

Am I right?

This site is full of direct speculation, although I think you are confused as to the meaning of the term.

As for evidence, direct or indirect, absolutely nada. Never was.

He's as clean as Jakob is now.

In a recent interview from Doha (Qatar) 2023, Hussein Benzriguinate (the most close friend of El G. in his training), said that if someone need to be close to the record, he need to foccus only in the 1500m (making allusion Jakob and Girma), and mention the young Algerian Heithem CHENITEF could follow this path.

But its a bit of old now.

lagazettedufennec.com

Haïthem Chenitef n’a pas démérité pour sa grande première

Yanni Abdelli

pour sa première grande participation parmi les seniors, Haïthem Chenitef a été éliminé aux portes de la finale après une 3e place au 800m.

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He also ran 3:26 high twice in 2002.

5 times sub 3:27.

The dude would be running 3:25 weekly in today's era.

Irony is he'd drag Jakob to faster times if he were around today.

If you truly are a realistic cynic, you’d see the irony in your statement.