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malmo wrote:
Sally vv wrote:
Yeah - where I live it might be 82 and 95% humidity. That is pretty rough to race in.
Doubtful. Thats a dew point of 80°. I don't know where you live, but that would be rare anywhere in the US.
Not sure about the US, in HK, there're usually a few days of the year when it hits 80-81F. Never above 81F though afaik.
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Curious_Cat wrote:
malmo wrote:
Doubtful. Thats a dew point of 80°. I don't know where you live, but that would be rare anywhere in the US.
Not sure about the US, in HK, there're usually a few days of the year when it hits 80-81F. Never above 81F though afaik.
btw, I started paying attention to dew point (rather than RH) thanks to your post!
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Curious_Cat wrote:
Curious_Cat wrote:
Not sure about the US, in HK, there're usually a few days of the year when it hits 80-81F. Never above 81F though afaik.
btw, I started paying attention to dew point (rather than RH) thanks to your post!
The average for Houston ranges from over 90 percent in the morning to around 60 percent in the afternoon.The low temp05 -
Hobby Jogging Harry the really fake one wrote:
The fact that you asked the question tells me there would be no point for you. In fact there would be no point for you to race any time. You should quit running and find a new hobby.
I race when it's too hot, and when it's too cold, and when it's too windy, and all other kinds of conditions, simply because I love racing.
If you're going to sit on the sidelines and until an elusive perfect day arrives, then you clearly do not love racing and should find something else to do with your time.
I am racing this weekend and it'll be a lot hotter where I am than where you are, simply because I love doing it. Go find something you love that much.
and I assume you run a 12 minute 5k?
Shut up you amateur hobby jogger.
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Badcompany wrote:
Hobby Jogging Harry the really fake one wrote:
The fact that you asked the question tells me there would be no point for you. In fact there would be no point for you to race any time. You should quit running and find a new hobby.
I race when it's too hot, and when it's too cold, and when it's too windy, and all other kinds of conditions, simply because I love racing.
If you're going to sit on the sidelines and until an elusive perfect day arrives, then you clearly do not love racing and should find something else to do with your time.
I am racing this weekend and it'll be a lot hotter where I am than where you are, simply because I love doing it. Go find something you love that much.
Quality trolling. 👍👍
For a post that dumb, I assume they are trolling.
If not I hope they keel over at the end of the race and start hyperventilating. Serves them right.
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Sally vv wrote:
Curious_Cat wrote:
btw, I started paying attention to dew point (rather than RH) thanks to your post!
The average for Houston ranges from over 90 percent in the morning to around 60 percent in the afternoon.The low tempDouble down on stupid will ya? Relative humidity isn't the same as Dew Point. It's rare to see a 80° Dew Point in the US.
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malmo wrote:
Sally vv wrote:
The average for Houston ranges from over 90 percent in the morning to around 60 percent in the afternoon.The low tempDouble down on stupid will ya? Relative humidity isn't the same as Dew Point. It's rare to see a 80° Dew Point in the US.
Are you really this stupid? I never once talked about Dew point. I was merely saying what the humidity is in Houston. Learn to read.
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Sally vv wrote:
malmo wrote:
Double down on stupid will ya? Relative humidity isn't the same as Dew Point. It's rare to see a 80° Dew Point in the US.
Are you really this stupid? I never once talked about Dew point.(1) I was merely saying what the humidity is in Houston. Learn to read.
Sally vv wrote:
Yeah - where I live it might be 82 and 95% humidity (2) That is pretty rough to race in.(1)(2) 82° with 95% humidity, means the DEW POINT is 80° It's common for the Dew Point in Houston to be in the mid to upper 70°s range in Houston, but a Dew Point over 80° is rare. Why do you keep dragging this on?
Reality check: a Dew Point of 70° is difficult to run in.93 -
Sorry to interrupt this p***ing match.
The maximum heat that most schools around here allow their kids to race in is 104 F. Our humidity is much lower though. We use a Kestrel wet bulb global temperature sensor at our athletic practices and competitions in the fall.
77 with 61% is doable, but OP won’t PR.
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lol pathetic wrote:
Badcompany wrote:
Quality trolling. 👍👍
For a post that dumb, I assume they are trolling.
If not I hope they keel over at the end of the race and start hyperventilating. Serves them right.
I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that he’s not a nothing happening skinny loser who has his whole identity tied to an activity that no one cares about and that has no market value.
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Give up...
You are looking for an excuse to either run poorly, or not run at all.
If you enjoy running, go for it. It will be over in 15 minutes.
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CoachB wrote:
77 with 61% is doable, but OP won’t PR.
Whats wrong with that? That would be typical NCAA, Conference meets, Prefontaine Meet conditions. For a hobbyjogger it might be difficult but for serious competitors thats great.
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I believe dew point is the better one stop shopping indicator.
You can have high humidity and low temperatures. So, it won’t be uncomfortable because you’re not sweating a lot.
High Dewpoint is guaranteed uncomfortable conditions.
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For Houston the average dew point for Jun/Jul/Aug is about 74 - the highest of any major city. For Aug the average dew point is about 77. A number of record highs have been above 80 with even an 85 and 86 thrown in there.
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Hobby Jogging Harry the really fake one wrote:
The fact that you asked the question tells me there would be no point for you. In fact there would be no point for you to race any time. You should quit running and find a new hobby.
I race when it's too hot, and when it's too cold, and when it's too windy, and all other kinds of conditions, simply because I love racing.
If you're going to sit on the sidelines and until an elusive perfect day arrives, then you clearly do not love racing and should find something else to do with your time.
I am racing this weekend and it'll be a lot hotter where I am than where you are, simply because I love doing it. Go find something you love that much.
I love racing too, by why pay $35 to run a 18:xx and second place could be 21:xx?? Very humid and hot here all summer and not many races because of that. We're all gearing up for the fall races anyway. Not OP, but a bit harsh and many factors
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malmo wrote:
Sally vv wrote:
Are you really this stupid? I never once talked about Dew point.(1) I was merely saying what the humidity is in Houston. Learn to read.
Sally vv wrote:
Yeah - where I live it might be 82 and 95% humidity (2) That is pretty rough to race in.(1)(2) 82° with 95% humidity, means the DEW POINT is 80° It's common for the Dew Point in Houston to be in the mid to upper 70°s range in Houston, but a Dew Point over 80° is rare. Why do you keep dragging this on?
Reality check: a Dew Point of 70° is difficult to run in.
80 dew point I would expect thunderstorms imminently. Low to mid 70s is common in the southeast in the summer. High 70s is possible, but it will usually storm if it gets there.
You can add the temp and dewpoint in the summer to get a quick comparison (of days in your area) of how suck the days are for running. Relative humidity is only an important measure for farmers.
Here are some current dew points
Jacksonville 71
Atlanta 69
Portland, ME 63
New Orleans 74
Houston 72
Phoenix 56
Salt Lake City 41
Seattle & San Fran 52
San Diego 61
Just to give an idea what is typical in the summer. If someone tells me the dew point is 80, I'd just assume they don't know what they are talking about.
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What's the dew point going to be? 77 with low humidity is worlds different from 77 & high humidity. What does holding off a week gain? Significantly better weather the following week? Summer racing isn't about PBs for stuff 5k & up. It's about, you know, racing. If you want to race then race. Just adjust your pace & try to run a time that converts to what you'd like to run in good conditions. Focus on trying to run even splits in bad weather. Set small goals like having a faster 2nd mile than 1st one. Throw out time goals & don't judge your results too hard.
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Kvothe wrote:
malmo wrote:
(1)(2) 82° with 95% humidity, means the DEW POINT is 80° It's common for the Dew Point in Houston to be in the mid to upper 70°s range in Houston, but a Dew Point over 80° is rare. Why do you keep dragging this on?
Reality check: a Dew Point of 70° is difficult to run in.
80 dew point I would expect thunderstorms imminently. Low to mid 70s is common in the southeast in the summer. High 70s is possible, but it will usually storm if it gets there.
You can add the temp and dewpoint in the summer to get a quick comparison (of days in your area) of how suck the days are for running. Relative humidity is only an important measure for farmers.
Here are some current dew points
Jacksonville 71
Atlanta 69
Portland, ME 63
New Orleans 74
Houston 72
Phoenix 56
Salt Lake City 41
Seattle & San Fran 52
San Diego 61
Just to give an idea what is typical in the summer. If someone tells me the dew point is 80, I'd just assume they don't know what they are talking about.
The highest substantiated dew point in US is 88 in Iowa, I believe. There have been a few unsubstantiated dew points of 90 including one in Minn. The highest worldwide is 95 in Saudi Arabia in 2003. The heat index was 176 and the temp was 108.
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