CU Boulder Scientists (Drafting Experts) Call Out & Respond to Rojo's Comments on Sub 4-Mile Attempt

Drafting will help more than you think. You only think drafting doesn't help much because you're used to half-assed Diamond Leagues with only 1-2 pacers who only go halfway and may or may not run close enough to actually shield the wind.

The full draft formation was said to help Kipchoge 3-4 minutes which is 6-9 seconds per mile. And Kipyegon will be running even faster so there's proportionally more air resistance to overcome.

Yes, but what isn't factore in is she might be in better shape now than when she ran the wrong. If she is in 404 shape now (women's only race), the fully paced race might save her just enough to eek out the extra time (359.xx).

The math isn’t hard to use a diamond formation and have her run in lane 3.

while she likely wont beat cooper teares high school time. if that is her mantra. while settle for catching bannister. maybe pick off webb

Lol why the emphasis on "31-year-old mother?" Are they trying to make this whole event about "girl power?"

If they want a diamond, they should run it at Franklin Field.

This dude cracks me up. Is this for real? I think even the most evil oppressors of women recognized that men and women aren’t the same, as this made it easier to know who to oppress. You’re the best.

I’ll say it. Watching the first ep on Amazon, why are they not using her training partners? I get Nike has to bring out the marketable faces but if they haven’t practiced with her at race pace, what’s the point?!

Can someone explain why she doesn't just run from lane 2/3? Clearly an oversized track would be advantageous + they'd probably be able to form a better echelon with room in lane 1/2.

This is at best a lazy Nike marketing scheme and at worst it's a renaissance of mechanical and physical doping. This entire production is sickening.

He is big and she is small so she will get a better reduction in air resistance. Also it is hard to stay focused for two hours so she can get closer to the wind blocks. Furthermore she is using people behind to get just a little bit more assistance. The configuration looks like it has been more carefully crafted the for sub2

Why even have human pacers? Why not automated aerodynamic vehicles set for sub 4 pace.

That has been done for bicycle time trials, IIRC. Wasn't the first first sub 1 minute mile done this way?

Without Eldrick, this is all just speculation.

I didn't think she could do it, but once Rojo said it, now I'm 100% convinced she'll go sub-4.

It did not gain him 3-4 minutes. Kipchoge ran just 1:30 slower at Berlin three years later. And when he did the Breaking 2 marathon he also had the benefit of a flatter course with minimal, wide-radius turns, a start on a bridge with the maximum legal elevation drop, a pace car with laser projected pacing guides, and the other runners handing him his fuel bottles.

They certainly know more than I, but 13% just seems way high to me for running (vs cycling at 30mph). So she is dropping 13 sec for every 100 sec? No way. As someone said, she also has had drafting before.

I love threads about the running equivalent of an E Bloc weightlifter packed with steroids. That's where Kenyan running is today.

I am shocked that they dont use Penn.