2 Guys Just Ran 3:27 and 6 Sub 3:30 in a Non Diamond League 1500

They train together so they’ve kept each other company quite a bit already.

Which shoes?

Is there a super hyped up 1500m shoe that has come out since 2023?

The average testing level for Kenya’s Olympic team in the 9 months before 2024. 12.4 tests, 9 out of competition. There’s a reason there’re a lot of busts. There is both doping occurring and a lot of spot testing. If every country tested this much, we’d have more busts overall.

Championship races are typically slower and come down to the last 400.

Are 1500 guys getting on the Bi-carb train?

How ‘real’ is the actual testing in Kenya, or Ethiopia, Uganda, etc.? It’s a clown show in Africa right now when it comes to testing and age-group cheating. Look what soccer had to do to curb the rampant cheating by Africans in age-group events (MRI wrist test).

I hope they’re not sharing needles.

Koech is Wanyonyi's training partner though. Did Wanyonyi fade as the Olympic got closer last year?

I agree with this. I think he could potentially front-run a 3:31 at British champs and maybe win that way. But I've seen him out-kicked so many times by guys who shouldn't be in his class. I gave him a pass for losing out in Oslo because he took the pace for the last 1200 but all things being equal, should a 3:28 guy really be getting out-kicked by Nico Young? It could be that Mills ends up with all Farah's British distance records and never wins a global medal.

Pure doping apologism on a rekrunner scale. The reason Kenya has been forced to undergo more stringent testing is because of hundreds of busts. So Kenya's Olympic team is tested twice as often (in the leadup to the Olympics) as the German team. You're deluded if you're claiming that Germany would have twice as many busts if they had twice as many tests (probably still zero).

More importantly, we know that Kenya's testing is corrupt as sin, with documented advanced warning by text messages and the offering of 'tea money' bribes.

I wonder what kind of scale measures as "Kenyans are doping, Kenyans are tested, Kenyans are busted" as "pure doping apologism"?

True. Kenyans were popped in Rio before the 800 with coaches and other random team helpers trying to take the pee tests for athletes - and of course officials bent over backward to make sure the mighty Africans passed the tests with flying colora anyway, no matter what they actually passed when tested.

Elite distance running is a circus, hope yall don't expect a fair one or else you're too naive.

How is it doping apologism to quote the anti-doping body’s statistics of their testing? I never said that about the German team. But you are being equally naive if you think zero German athlete would fail a doping test OR get a whereabouts violation facing 9 unannounced tests in 9 months. There is doping in Kenya, which I said. I’m just dismissing the myth that Kenya doesn’t test a lot.

i can handle a 327 from guys that were tested for ever and have the progression and are not from total red flag courtries, and even that you have to take with a grain of salt.

these results are so farcical, i may have to abandon my favorite time waste, as results might well be random.

now a 325 is meaningless, or nearly so.

at least we know a 31 year old can improve more than 12 seconds in the 1500 since age 24 , and it will be with EPO or analogue you can be sure.

wojo etc. still does not call out this kind of rosie ruiz thing on the spot

that chick was over weight with no running form

you can call out some things on the spot

like needing to ask the weather man first if its windy, when your house roof blew off

EPO infused shoes from Nike

Once Wanyoni was defeated in the Paris meet last year, he disappeared before the Olympics, then showed up in top EPO and nandrolone form. A rather large youngster repping Canada had a massive jump in ability and form in the weeks between Monaco and the Paris Games. Heckuva negative split after tying up badly in Monaco while fading to 1:42.8. But that was just jet leg, right?

All are time trial merchants, yawn