Most but not all. My son ran 1:54/4:17 junior year but received little interest so he just attended our state school due to cost. We pay about $23K per year. Out of state schools and private schools were about double the price.
Most but not all. My son ran 1:54/4:17 junior year but received little interest so he just attended our state school due to cost. We pay about $23K per year. Out of state schools and private schools were about double the price.
You think Kenyan runners stay in the US and contribute to our economy?
Ignorant statement. Iowa State was 2nd at NCAA last year with 2 Iowa natives in the top 7. Did any other elite teams do that other than BYU? And they signed a footlocker finalist and an 8:46 guy next season.
visa card wrote:
You think Kenyan runners stay in the US and contribute to our economy?
Given the opportunity, yes. Some will be fast enough to continue working as runners post college, but not all. They can earn a lot more here than they can in Kenya, even if they have to get a degree and do something outside of running. The areas of Kenya that produce runners are mostly tourism and agriculture driven. Very rarely are they returning to Kenya to work in tech or the public sector in Nairobi.
The runners in the US are majoring in exercise science and most dont graduate. They return to Kenya never to be heard from again. The fast ones stay to run, not to contribute. They send most of their money back home.
Paul Chelimo and Bernard Lagat are among the many who have done just that.
Kenyans in the U.S. had a higher median income (61k) than Americans overall (50k) in 2014. This is a pretty niche stat, so I don't have current numbers. I would expect the trend to have continued upward because the group of Kenyans was young and highly educated.
"Kenyan immigrants currently represent a small fraction of the United States’ overall foreignborn population, but their numbers have grown quickly over the past two decades. Kenyan immigrants and their children (the first and second generation) totaled about 100,000 as of 2013, making it the smallest diaspora population in the RAD analysis.1
Two-thirds of Kenyan immigrants arrived in the U.S. during or after the year 2000.They are young, highly educated and economically successful: the median age is only 33, and 98 percent are below age 65. Kenyan diaspora members are more likely to be in the labor force than the general U.S. population, and a greater share of Kenyans hold bachelor’s degrees and advanced degrees than the U.S. population overall. In general, high levels of education correspond to higher employment rates for the diaspora groups analyzed in the RAD series, as is the case among Kenyans. The median annual income for Kenyan diaspora households is $61,000, above the median of $50,000 for all U.S. households. Thirteen percent of Kenyan households (in the US) have incomes over $140,000, which is the income threshold for the top tenth of American households."
https://www.aspeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/files/content/docs/RAD/Kenya_Profile.pdf
Yeah, only americans pay taxes in this country, thats how it works, lol.
You stated that "Kenyans in the US".....
That is not correct. Kenyan immigrants have higher incomes. Kenyan immigrants are people who became US citizens. They are the cream of the crop. They waited years to come and they desired to live the American dream. Kenyan runners major in soft majors and most don't graduate. They return to Kenya. Others remain here to run but don't become citizens. They send their money back to Kenya.
Trump is just a huge BYU fan and wants to codify their status as the distance powerhouse.
Manbearpig15 wrote:
AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
Should be proportional to the percent of University revenue that comes from the state as opposed to tuition. For example, if the University of Wisconsin gets 14% of its revenue from the state, then allot 14% of undergrad seats for Wisconsin students, while the remaining 86% can be a free-for-all
58% of funding comes from the state. 52% of the student body comes from the state. But thise students pay about 1/2 as much as out of state students.
Manbearpig15 wrote:
AMERICAN students should be the ones attending AMERICAN universities because they're funded by AMERICAN taxes.
American universities get tax payer funded money. That does not mean that it is the bulk of their revenue. Here is the part that you and most of the world that works outside of higher ed does not know. Most schools, especially private schools have what is call low residency programs. These programs are masters level degree that are geared toward working professionals predominately from India or China. These programs make up a huge chunk of many schools revenue. These programs make far more money for the school than traditional undergraduate programs. They are pure profit machines. No scholarships, students that are working good jobs, and 1-2 year programs that constantly bring in new students. A long term visa pause will be catastrophic to the higher education industry. There are roughly 6000+ schools in the US. Half of those could not stay open for more than a year without programs like these. No one makes money on brick and morter students anymore. So lets gut the industry and make a college degree available to only rich people in an economy where the degree is a requirement for any professional career path. Athletics is the least of our worries with a policy like this. Even large state schools will take massive hits financially. That leads to cutting programs in academics and athletics. Great plan.
Jingoism wrote:
There were actually 4 Americans that finished in the top 12 of the west regional 10k. Why bother developing American talent when you can have immediate success going abroad?
Metrics drive behavior.
Trump is a
Really Excellent Thinker And Reader Dude
Not that it makes it better but the visa ban is on Harvard students only.
Dudewhat? wrote:
Not that it makes it better but the visa ban is on Harvard students only.
To be clear, all visa interviews (mandatory to obtain a US visa) in all countries of the world, have been suspended. No foreign student can be admitted to the US without a valid student visa. Harvard's foreign students face a visa ban, other foreign students face a visa suspension.
Meanwhile, won’t the next POTUS reverse Trump’s directive?
visa card wrote:
You think Kenyan runners stay in the US and contribute to our economy?
Yes we do.. Like most American born college athletes who graduate, most Kenyans do not go on to be pro athletes. They are more likely to work in a career outside of running in the US than they are to make a living running. And those who do often have contracts with US shoe and apparel company. That why our Universities have always been our most valuable asset and the envy of the world.