Considering Jakob taking down world records since he was a little boy I would be surprised if he was doping. His year to year improvement seemed pretty rational.
I know there is a lengthy history of drug busts from African nations, but I'm still kinda amazed over the extent to which all of the white runners are given the benefit of the doubt on here.
I know there is a lengthy history of drug busts from African nations, but I'm still kinda amazed over the extent to which all of the white runners are given the benefit of the doubt on here.
I don't think that's true. There are plenty of posts on here accusing plenty of white people of doping.
People just also defend their favorite runners, and if you're a distance fan in America or UK, there's a good chance some of your favorite runners are white. I don't think guys like Giles or Nuguse get any different treatment.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
I was going to put Valby but her teammate tested positive for EPO.
I know there is a lengthy history of drug busts from African nations, but I'm still kinda amazed over the extent to which all of the white runners are given the benefit of the doubt on here.
Most disingennuous and inacurate post of the day.
Who’s clean? Maybe one or two African men, zero African women.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
Definitely not Hocker. Most sus progression I’ve seen.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
Hot take, but Galen Rupp was 100% clean as a whistle… “by the book.” The whole point of Salazar’s science experiment was to use whatever janky methods possible to get close to but not quite break the rules. The act of never crossing that line was always the mental gymnastic barrier that was not “acceptable.” Absolutely a violation of the spirit of the rule but always 100% within the bounds of the letter of the law.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
Hot take, but Galen Rupp was 100% clean as a whistle… “by the book.” The whole point of Salazar’s science experiment was to use whatever janky methods possible to get close to but not quite break the rules. The act of never crossing that line was always the mental gymnastic barrier that was not “acceptable.” Absolutely a violation of the spirit of the rule but always 100% within the bounds of the letter of the law.
Tbh, I think the super shoes have obscured Rupp's period of distance running. It's easier to say he was clean because athletes now are running so much faster.