How soon until bicarb is banned?

How long until taking gels during a marathon is banned?

They should outright ban carbohydrates.

Typically, a substance or method will be considered for the WADA Prohibited List if the substance or method meets any two of the following three criteria:

It has the potential to enhance or enhances sport performance

Ahm... duh

It represents an actual or potential health risk to the athlete

I guess maybe zey should ban "Bad" Carbs because I keep hearing about how naughty they are.

It violates the spirit of sport

We don't need this 3rd one, but one could make a case for it because of food inequality throughout the world. We are the World. We are the Children. Are we really, though?

Most of you missed the point. This new method is eqivalent to doping. It is not like caffeine or carbohydrates. How do you have more of a problem with shoes than this? Josh Hoey is going to break the world record it seems like all fueled by Maurtein.

lactate buffering *

Is it though, or is it just a consequence of the smarter training by the top guys? Here's a video of him about a month ago of him doing a threshold workout with lactate testing. Remember when it was just the Norwegians doing this in track? Now it's common place with elites. The days of runners like Webb just hammering workouts and himself into the ground is not as common. People are training more intelligently and as a result are able to train more with less chance of injury. Sure the new shoes and better supplements have something to do with it, but some baking soda will only do so much.

I've also heard about some people doing this but the results widely vary. Rumor is that one of the records that have been set lately, either a WR or a domestic record, was by someone using this technique.

Have any of you actually tried Bicarb? I have (3 times now) and found no improvement. Perhaps i did something wrong…

i do wonder if there is something else going on and bicarb is being used as a smokescreen…

Link to the list, please...

Right after they ban super-shoes, oh wait

The real question is how long until they make it work up to half-marathon distance without GI upset or might they have already?

I have a real question though:

Do most people simply stop at bicarb once they see such a dramatic benefit for themselves?

or is it a "gateway drug"

Would you trust someone you know uses Bicarb to not be experimenting with other stuff likely banned?

OK, but you have to ban DHMO first. List of dangers of DHMO:

Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

Scary stuff!

I have to admit, finally, I do not even get what this is. I looked it up and could still not figure out the advantage.

Would somebody be so kind as to give a three liner, not an essay of how and why this is such a big thing. My apologies in advance?

All runners are pedestrians.

This is the IOC statement on supplements. Caffeine, beta-alanine, bicarb, creatine, Vitamin D, Iron, etc., etc.

How much would Bicarb help a high school freshman running 2:25/5:20? Is it an absolute benefit or relative?

Bicarbonate acts as a buffer, neutralizing hydrogen ions (H+) produced during intense exercise that lead to the accumulation of lactic acid in muscles. This helps maintain the pH balance in the muscles, preventing them from becoming too acidic, which would slow down muscle contractions. By delaying the onset of muscle fatigue, runners can sustain higher intensities for longer periods.

but its natural right?

Ban baking soda?

It's a naturally occurring substance, but so is testosterone.