It is turning pedestrian 800 runners into world beaters. The sub elites that I know that use it say it basically eliminates lactate as what holds them back, they just reach their full mechanical potential. Unbelievable this is allowed.
It is turning pedestrian 800 runners into world beaters. The sub elites that I know that use it say it basically eliminates lactate as what holds them back, they just reach their full mechanical potential. Unbelievable this is allowed.
It won’t be unless it is found to have health consequences. Bicarbonate is no different than gels, electrolyte drinks, salt tablets, etc.
Stay mad.
I get that but holy smokes that would get almost every athlete done for doping think of the amount of stuff that you use bi-carb soda for
I used some bicarbonate (baking soda) the other day while cooking. So I was cheating?
Hoeydown wrote:
It is turning pedestrian 800 runners into world beaters. The sub elites that I know that use it say it basically eliminates lactate as what holds them back, they just reach their full mechanical potential. Unbelievable this is allowed.
I believe they are banning carbo loading soon too. ;-)
It ain’t bicarb it’s mitochondria doping
You know it's on the recommended supplement list, right? Recommended.
Did people just figure this out? And if so, why did it take so long?
Trackster17 wrote:
Did people just figure this out? And if so, why did it take so long?
Taking straight bicarb usually causes stomach distress. So sure you could get some lactate buffering, but you might get awful stomach cramps and some explosive results.
What changed recently is commercially available delivery mechanisms (bicarb in a gel like suspension), that seems to solve the digestion problem. People started seeing results in races, started adding it for training, and it got pretty widespread.
Hopefully not until after my St Patrick’s day 5k
In the mid 2000s we used to eat spoonfuls of baking soda. It was unpalatable and gave us stomach aches. They fixed those issues so now you can consume a ton with no ill effects
It’s time to face the truth. For too long, we’ve turned a blind eye while athletes openly consume a dangerous, performance-enhancing substance; one that’s readily available in cookies, pretzels, pancakes, and even (gasp) pickles.
That’s right. Bicarbonate. The menace that’s turning our once-pure sport into a glorified bake sale! Elite runners have been carb loading on bicarb-laced bread for years.
1) Pickle juice is a well-known "electrolyte hack" clearly an underground buffering agent.
2) Club soda? A legalized form of lactic acid resistance.
3) Pretzels? Well, don’t get me started. If you’ve ever raced against someone who had a salty, pH-balanced snack before toeing the line, you’ve already been a victim of this scandal!
The solution is clear:
1) USADA must raid bakeries immediately.
2) Anti-doping agencies should test for pre-race biscuit consumption.
3) WADA must consider banning all athletes who have ever eaten a muffin.
We cannot allow the sport to be tainted by covert cookie-doping and the rampant abuse of naturally occurring, completely legal food ingredients.
It’s time to clean up our sport.
Ban pretzels. Save the future of running!
It shouldn’t be banned. Most of not all of the complaints are by people that were born at the wrong time. The only reason they think it’s unfair is because they didn’t get to use it. The same goes for the shoes.
I ran in the late 80s early 90s. I would have used both the bicarb and the shoes if they were available. So would virtually every other competitive runner at the time.
It’s not cheating. The shoes aren’t cheating. Get over it.
Who here has tried the Maurten bicarb?
distance/time (with and without)
Maurten has been out of stock for a while now. I wonder why???
Maurten Makes Old Men Feel Irrelevant wrote:
It won’t be unless it is found to have health consequences. Bicarbonate is no different than gels, electrolyte drinks, salt tablets, etc.
Stay mad.
It is somewhat unhealthy (gobs of salt) but the amount is not that big of a deal for otherwise healthy runners. I wouldn't take it numerous times per week, however.
It also won't be banned because how would it be tested? It's in food. Would there be a two muffin per day limit?
It's obviously not the performance enhancing drug that you think it is or it would be banned.
You already have an extremely similar substance that has been widely used forever and proven to help. Caffeine. Bicarb is never going to be banned.
Good Old Dave wrote:
It shouldn’t be banned. Most of not all of the complaints are by people that were born at the wrong time. The only reason they think it’s unfair is because they didn’t get to use it. The same goes for the shoes.
I ran in the late 80s early 90s. I would have used both the bicarb and the shoes if they were available. So would virtually every other competitive runner at the time.
It’s not cheating. The shoes aren’t cheating. Get over it.
Same.
Competed in the ‘90s. Bicarb was around then too.
Times change, technology evolves. Bicarb, tracks, shoes, training methods, etc.
Even if it does have such a big advantage it would be impossible to regulate. How can you tell atheltes they can’t have baking soda? Where do you draw the line from cookies to maurten bicarb?