A sub-3:45 mile is always impressive, whether indoors or outdoors. But he's gone for indoor 1500 records before and come up short so let's not get ahead of ourselves
List some of those times he came up short in an indoor 1500 WR attempt.
A sub-3:45 mile is always impressive, whether indoors or outdoors. But he's gone for indoor 1500 records before and come up short so let's not get ahead of ourselves
When? As I recall he only went for it once and got it.
With similar pacing to Yared, he is at least 1 second faster.
Yared is close when Jakob paces him wire to wire - interestingly, similar to how Hobbs is close to Yared when Yared has to lead the second half.
This won’t take a “new level” or anything. In terms of absolute fitness, Jakob is far ahead. (Maybe Hocker can close the gap). He will easily get the record.
A sub-3:45 mile is always impressive, whether indoors or outdoors. But he's gone for indoor 1500 records before and come up short so let's not get ahead of ourselves
List some of those times he came up short in an indoor 1500 WR attempt.
I mean he technically “went for it” in 2023 in Lievin, but as far as I remember he never said anything about the WR and was coming off injury anyway, so it was just a test to see where his fitness was heading into Euros. I assume this is what high hopes was referring to because there’s no other race in Jakob’s career that could possibly be considered a failed record attempt indoors.
No way he runs 3:43, he isn’t actually peaking for this race. Obviously if he has found a new level like Hocker maybe he can, but then that would imply that fully peaked he can run like 3:41 which I doubt.
I can hardly wait for you to be wrong.
Your ideas of peaking are outmoded under Norwegian style training. There is no reason for a elite training with double threshold to be 3+ seconds off of their ability just because they "aren't peaking."
Unlike with hyper-periodized training relying on mass amounts of mile-pace and VO2 work, you don't need a long peaking process off of double threshold done right. A few mile-specific workouts and you're there.
I ran some calculations with GPT, and it looks like he would need to maintain a 54.3-second per lap pace for the final 509 meters to break the outdoor record as well. (3.43.13)
One of the Norwegian commentators mentioned during his European XC race that rumors suggest he's been delivering some incredible performances in training.
A 54.3-second lap pace for the final stretch might typically be too fast for Jakob, but if the 2025 version of him is on a whole new level—who knows?
Rumours are that he’s on a completely different level. Almgren has confirmed this with some comments in an interview around his new European Record over 10k.
I ran some calculations with GPT, and it looks like he would need to maintain a 54.3-second per lap pace for the final 509 meters to break the outdoor record as well. (3.43.13)
One of the Norwegian commentators mentioned during his European XC race that rumors suggest he's been delivering some incredible performances in training.
A 54.3-second lap pace for the final stretch might typically be too fast for Jakob, but if the 2025 version of him is on a whole new level—who knows?
No way he runs 3:43, he isn’t actually peaking for this race. Obviously if he has found a new level like Hocker maybe he can, but then that would imply that fully peaked he can run like 3:41 which I doubt.
Yes. The peak will most likely be far in the future. Usually Jakob has run 3s faster in the outdoor season compared to his indoor runs. Most likely because of the structure of the training.
List some of those times he came up short in an indoor 1500 WR attempt.
I mean he technically “went for it” in 2023 in Lievin, but as far as I remember he never said anything about the WR and was coming off injury anyway, so it was just a test to see where his fitness was heading into Euros. I assume this is what high hopes was referring to because there’s no other race in Jakob’s career that could possibly be considered a failed record attempt indoors.
I don´t think he was coming from injury in 2023. As far as I remember he was quite seriously ill in January 2023.
And this was known before the Lievin 1500m that year.
I ran some calculations with GPT, and it looks like he would need to maintain a 54.3-second per lap pace for the final 509 meters to break the outdoor record as well. (3.43.13)
One of the Norwegian commentators mentioned during his European XC race that rumors suggest he's been delivering some incredible performances in training.
A 54.3-second lap pace for the final stretch might typically be too fast for Jakob, but if the 2025 version of him is on a whole new level—who knows?
No way he runs 3:43, he isn’t actually peaking for this race. Obviously if he has found a new level like Hocker maybe he can, but then that would imply that fully peaked he can run like 3:41 which I doubt.
Why don´t you think he can run 3:41 when fully peaked this year?
Many posters (including myself) think he could have run 3:42 last season when he was in his 3000m WR shape.
Don´t you think he will improve this year?
His 7:17.55 WR in the 3000m indicates a mile in 3:41 flat.