Huge age cheating scandal discovered in Kenya for last year's World Jrs

WHAT?? Kenya cheating?? No way, imported 😂

*impossible

I think that went years ago. Ma's army offered no less 'proof' that Chinese women had a genetic advantage, or Koch and the rest that East Germans had an advantage.

The only things apart from doping that Kenyans have going for them is financial incentives, a perfect climate and terrain full of running trails, and low obesity rates. All of these are environmental. You can also add the self-fulfilling 'genetic advantage' myth itself, although it probably has done more harm to young Western runners and their own self-belief.

The BYU runners don’t claim to be juniors, unlike the hordes of filthy cheats from Africa.

Ok zoomer, Wtf does “rolled” mean?

+ !.

Some examples:

The 3 Kenyans who beat Jakob in the U20 WC 2018 all set PBs when they were still teenagers.

George Manangoi who won the 1500m ahead of Jakob ran 3:31 in 2019 at "age 18" and has never come close to that time again. He might have finished his career since he haven´t run an official race after June last year.

Edward Zakayo Pingua who won the U20 5000m hasn´t improved his 5000m PB 13:03 since 2019 when he on paper was only 17. He might have finished his career as well.

Stanley Mburu who placed 2 in the U20 5000m before Jakob hasn´t improved his 5000m time 13:05 since 2019 when he was "19 years old". He has, however, had a better career than the 2 others taking silver in the 2022 WC 10000m final.

It is difficult to say that Manangoi and Mburu looked older in the U20 WC in 2018 but Zakayo Pingua certainly did:

worldathletics.org

Edward Zakayo PINGUA News | World Athletics

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Zakayo by the way almost always shaved his head possibly to hide his high hair lining.

Ther should be bigger time gap after posting as Coevett if you don't want to be recogniced.

How do we know that Hocker, Kerr, and Nuguse are the ages they claim?

I'm sure Thoughtsleader has defended Zakayo, along with 'baby' Manangoi naturally.

standardmedia.co.ke

Kenyan athlete Zakayo downplays criticism over his age

@StandardKenya

The world under-20 5000m champion yesterday told off those doubting his age and instead directed them to his parents and Kenyan authorities.

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Rojo needs to remind Wejo of this old thread, when he accused us of being racist for caring more about Jakob than '17 year old' George Manangoi :

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8799945

I believe a sanction of missing the next U20 is appropriate/

100 percent agree.

I feel for all of the clean, and age proper, athletes that have been ripped off by Kenya over the decades.

Because it's a "moral high-ground" and lazy opt-out rebuttal which is very difficult to defend yourself against without appearing to affirm the accusation.

Basically if you get called a racist you have to just sit there and nod and take it on the chin - no matter what the reality is. You could be explaining why 1+2=3 and if "3" is racist, you're it.

Back to the issue, it's just been around for so long, is so laughably evident and is never going to change, the only thing I feel bad about are the kids of age that turn up, get blasted by young men and women in these events and are so demoralized they just fade out of the sport - which is also a huge "second layer" issue the sport faces.

Zakayo didn’t look the correct age and while he improved marginally over the next few years, I certainly think it appears his age was off. Manangoi looked young but you have to bear in mind his own brother confided he was ~2 years older than his listed age. So that has to up the odds he was overage objectively.
There’re some cases like Isaiah Koech and Muktar Edris that seem egregious and Kiplimo/Barega seem wild but they looked young and obviously have done incredible things. You tend to harp on Wanyonyi but he’s improved heavily so it seems to be 100% an argumebt he looked old. He did, but since he’s been in senior competition since 2022, who really cares?

What would all these young fellas do with themselves then...

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Right. It seems like any advantage they actually have is superficial at most. It’s funny that for these past few decades nearly everyone believed Kenyans had genetic advantages for running, but the evidence for that gets weaker the more it’s shown just to what extent they are willing to cheat.

Mmmm...because he cheated a Czech teen out of a medal? Because if you think he cheated with his age but isn't cheating with drugs then you're not being rational?

The previous four World Junior 800m African gold medalists have all been banned, but you think if it turns out Wanyonyi lied about his age he's still likely clean??? And with a coach who has the biggest number of doping busts in athletics history and who even Jama Aden disowned?????

Jama Aden story, can you link? Did you mean Federico Rosa maybe. Even so, a bit of a misrepresentation of that whole scenario, but yes it happened.

I appreciate your sympathy for Jakub Davidik. It’s probably worth noting he was 19 years, 8 months old for his 4th place finish. Wanyonyi’s age would’ve had to been off by 2 years and 8 months for him not to be truly eligible for the ‘21 World Juniors. Maybe it was, but it’s certainly quite a leap to just assume so.

My teammates and I joked about the Kenyans in the Junior Championships that were born "many moons ago" back in the 1990s. This is not news, but at least it is being exposed. Will any punishment come of it? I won't hold my breath. And those who missed out on medals to ineligible athletes won't get them back or the financial deals they deserved.