Tayvon Kitchen 8:41 2 mile

Wasn't Gorze another Mormon who did not go to BYU. I don't know for sure but I feel like people said that at the time. Also Echohawk was another Mormon who went elsewhere. Vause has not even committed. With roster limits many Mormons might be more reluctant to go to BYU only to possibly never run there.

Your last sentence actually doesn’t quite work right. With rosters limits it’s a smaller squad so in theory someone who gets offered is more likely to race, not less.

Getting cut will be more likely everywhere, more-so at top 10 schools, of course.

More elite Mormons will go elsewhere simply because BYU will be offering fewer HS kids.

Or a certain Californian runner who has the 8th grade 5k record but decided to not start his freshman year of high school until COVID ended due to lack of opportunities tomorrow compete (he’s class of 25 but was born on November 2005- I think we all know who I’m referring to).

I don't.

That's not true at all. Over 70% graduate when they are 18.

Hey, I gotta call this out. It's kind of embarrassing. You're not even supposed to be 19 during the summer you graduate, let alone 19 by May of your senior year. Yet, here we are. This is the ages for Josiah Tostenson and Tayvon Kitchen, the top runners at Crater High School- a pretty appalling fact. Honestly, these guys are practically the age of light college freshmen. Just think on that.

Still waiting to find out which runner turns 20 this year.

You fail to understand that you can start children later and many choose to do so. Imagine being a stay at home mom with a nice family income. You have only 5 years of your child's life to spend with them amd be their main influence. If it provides such a huge advantage to the children to hold them back, the parents should be applauded for doing everything they can for their children.

I see reading comprehension is not a skill you possess. I spoke of “this year” not the time of graduation. I’d also like to see a cite for your claim.

This is true, age clearly matters in rating a performance, but 8:41y (assume this was full 2mile) in early April is still extremely fast at 18/8mos.

Who was born in 2005?

Tayvon is graduating at 18. He’s showing up to college 18. There’s nothing unusual about that, guy.

Jesus Christ people don't know when to stop b*tching about age.

I'm gonna reiterate what I said in a thread about Josiah Tostensen a few days ago. This should clear it up for all you idiots who think Tayvon and Sadie are age cheats.

I'm gonna settle the whole age debate thing for like the 54th time. Josiah Tostensen is too old to be in HS. He turns 19 in May, and therefore will be graduating HS at the age of 19, which is an overage HS senior.

Just because he is "18 most of his senior year" doesn't mean he won't be 19 before HS ends. That is not how it works.

No this does not apply to Sadie Engelhardt or Tayvon Kitchen as they turn 19 in August this year, which is well after they graduate.

Broen Holman is an even crazier case. He was born in November 2005 yet is STILL in high school. That is almost the same age as me, and I graduated in 2023. Both him and Josiah should have graduated in 2024.

These HS age cheats are getting out of hand.

Personally, I think that as long as the student finishes high school at 18 and don't turn 19 until July/August at the earliest, it is fine. They are not an age cheat. They likely simply just delayed the start of formal school to avoid being the youngest in their class. MILLIONS of kids born in the late summer/fall/winter months do this. I wish that's what happened for me (as a September birthday).

So stop losing your damn minds over this.

While it's impressive that he's running fast times, competing as a college-age freshman in high school shouldn't really be seen as an achievement worth applauding. There's a big difference in physical capabilities between high school and college ages, especially for males. It’s important to consider the fairness and integrity of the competition. Just something to think about.

Yes Broen is an example of an actual age cheat. His whole "repeated 8th grade because of COVID" excuse is total BS to me. Everyone would have done that if it were that easy. He's literally two months younger than I am and I graduated in 2023.

Good thing he isn’t doing that.