I don’t want to rain on your parade but he’s run 1:45.6/3:33.9, which means he’s an 800/1500 guy. Still, an impressive double and his raw 400 speed is in a more exclusive class with Kessler and Green among US 1500m runners.
Is that how our works? Mo Farah ran 3:28.8. So he was a 1500/half marathon guy?
I don’t want to rain on your parade but he’s run 1:45.6/3:33.9, which means he’s an 800/1500 guy. Still, an impressive double and his raw 400 speed is in a more exclusive class with Kessler and Green among US 1500m runners.
Is that how our works? Mo Farah ran 3:28.8. So he was a 1500/half marathon guy?
Every runner is different. Mo was a 5K guy with speed that could take him down to 1500 and endurance that went up to 10K. He wasn’t the same caliber at HM/Marathon. He wouldn’t have fared well in the 800 or 400.
So far Sahlman has shown better results at 800 than distances above the mile. That could change obviously, but it hasn’t quite translated in XC yet and we haven’t seen a reason to think he’d be exceptional at the 5,000. Obviously he’d be good.
1:45.6 is worth a 13:15 by World Athletics tables. So he has to substantially PB to be a 15/5 guy. That’s just the truth. Not saying it can’t happen, but it’s just not his situation right now.
Kudos to SMith for throwing him in a double like this. Same thing with all the opportunity he gave Nico to run in different events. I have to believe the kids appreciate this and are having fun taking chances and seeing what they are capable of in some different races.
i know the very good high school kids i have love the opportunity to get in anything and everything from 4x200 and 300 up through 2 miles.
Kudos to SMith for throwing him in a double like this. Same thing with all the opportunity he gave Nico to run in different events. I have to believe the kids appreciate this and are having fun taking chances and seeing what they are capable of in some different races.
i know the very good high school kids i have love the opportunity to get in anything and everything from 4x200 and 300 up through 2 miles.
There’s nothing wrong with running the distances you’re good at and that’s what most runners do. 400m and 600m ain’t much, so maybe he did a serious interval workout after the meet.
I don't know how some of you all still think the 5000 is some ultra long race. It's a mid-distance race and nothing more. He may just be an 800/1500/5000 guy like Alan Webb. I would like to see CS run a 5 race season in the 5000. Why not? If he made it to the finals of NCAAs where it's about racing and not time trialing, I would have to think he would be the fastest one of the bunch the last lap. And if you choose to attack me, please excuse yourself if you are one of the morons who said there's no way Nico Young could run under 1:54 in the 800 in the past 1-2 years. Your little group deserves a 4 week suspension for that one and a little training on growth vs. limited mindset.
I don't know how some of you all still think the 5000 is some ultra long race. It's a mid-distance race and nothing more. He may just be an 800/1500/5000 guy like Alan Webb. I would like to see CS run a 5 race season in the 5000. Why not? If he made it to the finals of NCAAs where it's about racing and not time trialing, I would have to think he would be the fastest one of the bunch the last lap. And if you choose to attack me, please excuse yourself if you are one of the morons who said there's no way Nico Young could run under 1:54 in the 800 in the past 1-2 years. Your little group deserves a 4 week suspension for that one and a little training on growth vs. limited mindset.
Stopped reading as soon as you considered the 5K to be "mid distance"
Runs 1:17.2 for the school record then comes back to run 48.6 in the 400m just a little later. Pretty insane speed for someone we think of as a 1500m/5k guy. He could qualify for indoor nationals 800m-5000m, is there anyone else in the country who can say that?
Maybe Kessler will have another guy next to him during his prime in the 1500m trials.
Opinions aside, this dude has some of the greatest range for a distance runner I've seen. 48.6 all the way to a 13:38 5K?? He will become an absolutely INSANE miler in the future. He could break the American record. Calling it now. Next Alan Webb.
The rest of his races will be a byproduct of his speed and endurance strength, which is why at the end of the day, yes, he will always be a 1500M guy. It's his best event and it always will be.
1:17.24/48.6 @altitude doesn't move me much tbh, but I promise big things are coming. Tanking XC on purpose, he's running 1:43/3:30 this year.
Not sure why this is being downvoted, I feel the same way.
Good opener by Sahlman, 1:17/48.6 is a tough double, especially at altitude but 1:17 isn't eye opening or anything lol. It doesn't even come close making the all-time NCAA top 25. If this was a 1:15 or something? Ok, that would be pretty nuts.
I will say that i'm not sure how many milers in the NCAA could run 1:17 right now though. Sahlman is part of a historically common, now rare breed of 800/1500 guys that haven't really reappeared until recently.
1:17.24/48.6 @altitude doesn't move me much tbh, but I promise big things are coming. Tanking XC on purpose, he's running 1:43/3:30 this year.
Not sure why this is being downvoted, I feel the same way.
Good opener by Sahlman, 1:17/48.6 is a tough double, especially at altitude but 1:17 isn't eye opening or anything lol. It doesn't even come close making the all-time NCAA top 25. If this was a 1:15 or something? Ok, that would be pretty nuts.
I will say that i'm not sure how many milers in the NCAA could run 1:17 right now though. Sahlman is part of a historically common, now rare breed of 800/1500 guys that haven't really reappeared until recently.
Hold on. We blew out kids when Quincy Wilson ran 1:17 last week, a 44 sec 400m gold medalist and Colin drops a 1:17 as the high school XC record holder and it’s yawn time?
Not sure why this is being downvoted, I feel the same way.
Good opener by Sahlman, 1:17/48.6 is a tough double, especially at altitude but 1:17 isn't eye opening or anything lol. It doesn't even come close making the all-time NCAA top 25. If this was a 1:15 or something? Ok, that would be pretty nuts.
I will say that i'm not sure how many milers in the NCAA could run 1:17 right now though. Sahlman is part of a historically common, now rare breed of 800/1500 guys that haven't really reappeared until recently.
Hold on. We blew out kids when Quincy Wilson ran 1:17 last week, a 44 sec 400m gold medalist and Colin drops a 1:17 as the high school XC record holder and it’s yawn time?
dude running 1:44.2, 3:32.0, 12:56
Yeah but I was told he’s just an 800/1500 guy so the 600 doesn’t count
The 5k might count as a middle distance race depending on what your background is (1500m-5000m runners may count as middle distance types and 5k/10k runners might count as long distance runners). Even Jakob him self claims to be a middle distance runner.
Long distance events
10,000m
Half marathon
15km road
10 miles
20km road
Middle distance events
800m
1500m
Mile
2000m
3000m
2 miles
4km
5000m
There is a true difference between long distance and middle distance. It's just the background of which the athlete comes from.
From what I‘ve seen, Smith has his guys do very little pure speed work. Just some short hills, often on the treadmill. They certainly rip some workouts with longer recoveries, but those workouts don’t seem like the kind of thing that gets you a 46 split (last year) and 48 open 400. Maybe I’m wrong though.
Not sure why this is being downvoted, I feel the same way.
Good opener by Sahlman, 1:17/48.6 is a tough double, especially at altitude but 1:17 isn't eye opening or anything lol. It doesn't even come close making the all-time NCAA top 25. If this was a 1:15 or something? Ok, that would be pretty nuts.
I will say that i'm not sure how many milers in the NCAA could run 1:17 right now though. Sahlman is part of a historically common, now rare breed of 800/1500 guys that haven't really reappeared until recently.
Hold on. We blew out kids when Quincy Wilson ran 1:17 last week, a 44 sec 400m gold medalist and Colin drops a 1:17 as the high school XC record holder and it’s yawn time?
dude running 1:44.2, 3:32.0, 12:56
The US men’s team for the 1500 is going to be such a brutal team to make this next Olympic cycle. Hocker, Nuguse, and Kessler just entering their primes. The same is true for Green, Waskom, Sahlman, Martin, Strand, Murphy, Cook, Birnbaum, etc. Plausible to think we may have multiple US sub-3:30 guys that never make an outdoor world team. And I can’t believe I’m saying that.