Night of 10,000s to go dark for 1 year- Won't be held in 2025

You're analysis is dead wrong on both fronts.

You're 'following the money' when money isn't the driving force behind our club model.

1) Hayward field keeps rolling despite volunteer burnout because money rules all in Oregon.

2) NOT10KPBs was around before On and it will be around long after. Even if your speculation about On dropping them were true, the event has no absolute reliance on it and would roll on without it because us London club runners would keep it going.

not everything in this world is about money.

Kara and Des said they are going to host one! Stars are aligning.

Why aren't you London club runners just choosing an alternate location for next year then...

there are already similar events all over just not as big a deal. the battersea 10ks come to mind immediately. i'm sure there'll be others heathside already have the 'finsbury 5ks' maybe they'll expand next year.

but as for replicating/make an imitiation - why? sometimes taking a fallow year and letting things breathe is great. I'm really pleased for them all taking the time

For anyone saying the roads are the answer have overlooked a massive complication:

World Athletics introduced a new rule 2months ago that Female's cannot qualify for WC/OLY with road times run in the same race as men.

Now tell me how many women-only 10K's go sub 30:20...... wtaf

I'm sure coaches will just organize runs for their pro teams like they did for James Corrigan on the eve of the Olympics

Was that one of the reasons why BTC would organize their own little track time trials a few years back?

Keep in mind, WA in recent years has made some meets more ‘valuable’ in collecting performance scores (beyond what is garnered for just a finishing time). But if attending a small time-trial meet is the difference between hitting the actual time-standard or not, then it might motivate teams to run their own little time-trial, yes?

The idea that NOTT is a supplier of global automatic QTs on the men's side has become overtaken by the facts in recent years. I think in last 5 years the number per meet has been 0 or 1.

My guess is that UK will host a strong 10.000m incorporating the national champs and if uka can be bothered to try they should be able to attract a stack of European internationals who don't have the same depth in their own nations.But noone sub 27.20/sub 31 likely to travel for this as they would get a USA race slot. As indeed would the tiny number of brits in that league.

Most leading nations outside E Africa and USA (and maybe Japanese women) will have 0 or 1 starter in Tokyo 10000. I assume that is WA's expectation.

Not sure if you're responding to me suggesting it's full of automatic world/oly QT's but I agree it's not.

However, it's not all about the top end. Every year it gets regional (national level), euro and junior (U23/U20) qualifiers on both genders.

It's fair enough that people on the other side of the world only care about it because of the top end, but that's not where its roots or real value is

Another good catch.

And another reason why 10k road races will not be the solution to making up for the lack of world-class 10,000 track races . . . unless Valencia Ibercaja can clone itself a few times over.

Corrigan ran at a previously scheduled Franklin Field meet. Eyestone & others simply arranged for a competitive steeplechase which resulted in Corrigan getting his Oly Q.

Those BTC intrasquad meets were held in June/July 2000 during the C19 lockdown. Unique situation which has come and gone.

As for coaches getting together to organize a 10,000=focused track meet specifically for their athletes to chase Qs, that's what Jerry Schumacher/BTC coach did back in 2021 when he worked with Jesse Williams/Sound Running to organize the first The TEN. Look back at those results from 2021. . . almost all BTC runners. It was so successful others joined in. Since, it has grown to become the best collection of 10,000 races in the world with quality depth second only to the Olympics/WCs.

Night of the 10,000 PBs absence next year will likely add to the number of Europeans and other internationals flying to LA next March to participate, as Andreas Almgren/Sweden, Jack Rayner/Australia and several Japanese did earlier this year.

Get yourselves to Melbourne in December you losers. Great city, great weather, great race night. All you northern hemisphere people will be in your winter build so should be up to running a 10000

If Valby wants to hit that 30:20 standard at The 10, they should be thinking about getting under 14:40 this winter at The Track.

*”they”, (plural) meaning her team.

Kelati, Monson, Schweizer, Valby, Houlihan…

…who is in and out?

Although those pandemic intrasquad meets did happen, I don’t that’s what foggy recall is talking about. I think he’s talking about the pre-pandemic meets at the track on the Nike campus that would pop up seemingly at a moment’s notice and be paced for, like, 4200 of 5000 meters, one of which was the meet where, basically out of nowhere, Woody Kincaid broke 13 minutes for the first time.

Winter build? No.

Northern Hemisphere pro distance runners don't begin their fall base training until mid-October at the earliest. Just hills, tempos, steady state long runs. Nothing specific for track. That doesn't start until January to prepare for February indoor races.

December is way too early.

Solinsky's 26:59 against Rupp was in 2010