There are many ways to do cool work in healthcare research without treating patients. I work in population health, and you don't need an MD for that, just a public health/epi postgrad qualification. If you want to work in drug development or basic medical science, the answer is a chemistry postgrad (or similar, like toxicology), or possibly biology.
MD qualifies you to treat patients. If you don't want to do that, do a different qualification.
Yeah except all of those guys were also great clinicians - it's caring about people that motivated them.
Meh. In my field (epidemiology), doctors are often poor researchers. They are bright and motivated, but missing 3 years of training in study design, biostatistics, and computer programming. And also 2-5 years of practical experience working with large databases and high-throughput coding (they can't handle even a modest "omics" analysis). Typically, they build their skills to the level needed for one small research project then bail to make money.
Robert C Gallo, Anthony Fauci, Jonas Salk, Sabin etc.
I want to be a scientist, but not a clinician.
Is there a way to get out of dealing with patients if I go to medical school?
Of course. Radiology and Pathology come to mind immediately. But if you literally want nothing to do with patients even peripherally, then get a PhD not an MD. Chemistry, Physics, Biocem, Pharmacolgy...the list is limitless.
Robert C Gallo, Anthony Fauci, Jonas Salk, Sabin etc.
I want to be a scientist, but not a clinician.
Is there a way to get out of dealing with patients if I go to medical school?
Of course. Radiology and Pathology come to mind immediately. But if you literally want nothing to do with patients even peripherally, then get a PhD not an MD. Chemistry, Physics, Biocem, Pharmacolgy...the list is limitless.
But we are confused...are you "too dumb" as you say, or do you have great grades as you say? Radiology for one is going to be super competitive as far as who they take from med school. You never stop competing. MD/PhD is going to take extra time and is harder than just an MD. If you have not even taken the MCAT Im guessing you are early undergrad? Go shadow a few docs like a PCP, a surgeon, a radiologist etc and see how you feel. At a big academic institution they are more than glad to have you. You may change your mind.
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Hello.. I am an anesthesiologist. As part of medical school you need to do some patient care rotations in your 3rd year through main rotations like internal medicine, pediatrics, surgery, neurology, and psychiatry. Also, in your first two years you will have some exposure to patient care such as following a doctor or simulations. You can then choose electives in your fourth year that don’t center around patient care. After graduating from medical school, you can choose a specialty without direct patient care or go into something completely non clinical. (Like Michael Crichton of ER and Jurassic Park fame) TLDR You have to do some patient care in med school but you don’t need to care for patients after medical school.
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Hello.. I am an anesthesiologist. As part of medical school you need to do some patient care rotations in your 3rd year through main rotations like internal medicine, pediatrics, surgery, neurology, and psychiatry. Also, in your first two years you will have some exposure to patient care such as following a doctor or simulations. You can then choose electives in your fourth year that don’t center around patient care. After graduating from medical school, you can choose a specialty without direct patient care or go into something completely non clinical. (Like Michael Crichton of ER and Jurassic Park fame) TLDR You have to do some patient care in med school but you don’t need to care for patients after medical school.
He is never going to Medical school. He is not even a student. But, you have provided him with lots of food for thought for his future trolling endeavours on this site and others.
My brother in law worked for Glaxo Smith Cline for a while doing medical informatics. They had a bunch of MDs doing pharmaceutical research. Very well paid and a totally different pace compared to being a clinician and relying on insurance/medicare reimbursements.
Become a vet. you get all of the science and medical training. in fact, you will get more anatomy than in med school since you will have to learn the anatomy of multiple species.
Become a vet. you get all of the science and medical training. in fact, you will get more anatomy than in med school since you will have to learn the anatomy of multiple species.
Radiology. They literally never set eyes on an actual human being. Anesthesia is pretty close. They say hi before surgery but 98% of their job is while the patient’s asleep.
His question was not whether their are fields in medicine where you don't have to treat patients, which clearly there are several options. The question was whether he could get through medical school without doing so. That seems highly unlikely. Those radiologists you referred to had to do a lot of medical training that involved seeing patients before they became the type of radiologist that sees no patients.
Hello.. I am an anesthesiologist. As part of medical school you need to do some patient care rotations in your 3rd year through main rotations like internal medicine, pediatrics, surgery, neurology, and psychiatry. Also, in your first two years you will have some exposure to patient care such as following a doctor or simulations. You can then choose electives in your fourth year that don’t center around patient care. After graduating from medical school, you can choose a specialty without direct patient care or go into something completely non clinical. (Like Michael Crichton of ER and Jurassic Park fame) TLDR You have to do some patient care in med school but you don’t need to care for patients after medical school.
Is your career the reason you hobbyjogged those six marathons?
Radiology is the best career in medicine. I am in private practice. The work is a grind, but mentally stimulating and I am always learning new things due to the rapidly changing nature of the field. You can work your ass off and make money pretty close to Ortho and Neurosurgery (high six to low seven figures). Or, you can get a lifestyle teleradiology job and make pretty good money while never having to leave your house (400-500k). I used to do procedures, but now just interpret imaging studies. There is essentially zero patient interaction unless someone has a contrast reaction.
There are roughly 450 in the country. Suffice it to say that's not enough. You can name your place and price. It's fascinating field that has plenty of the 'science' that you're looking for, without patients that speak. You might even find yourself on TV in crime documentaries. You can always branch out into a forensics specialty from there.