What values specifically are so important to cause the United States to "uncouple?"
Suppressed free speech
misappropriation of taxes
overwhelming taxes (income tax, gas tax, capital gains, social security tax, etc)
government overreach
weaponization of the fbi
weaponization of the justice system
The blue collar/hillbilly wing of the Trump party is substantially non-taxpaying or barely taxpaying. I cant wait to see how it all works out for them. Poor, rural Rs are literally slicing off their own nuts with a rusty blade. They're so stupid, its unbelievable. The F9ck around phase is fun, Cletus. The find out phase won't be what your expecting.
Better to create 3 countries. 2 states can branch off to host the extreme left and extreme right. Give Florida to the right and Oregon to the left. This way the rest of us can go back to living a normal life without all the nonsense that has taken over
overwhelming taxes (income tax, gas tax, capital gains, social security tax, etc)
government overreach
weaponization of the fbi
weaponization of the justice system
The blue collar/hillbilly wing of the Trump party is substantially non-taxpaying or barely taxpaying. I cant wait to see how it all works out for them. Poor, rural Rs are literally slicing off their own nuts with a rusty blade. They're so stupid, its unbelievable. The F9ck around phase is fun, Cletus. The find out phase won't be what your expecting.
The find out phase? Are you going to ride out to the country on your electric scooter with your boyfriend and throw your soy lattes into a hillbilly's face?
You right-wing nutjobs really do live in a delusional world. Do we need to trot out the balance-of-payments stats to show how the red states as a group feed on the federal trough that is funded by blue states? Hmm, I guess we do. Read it and weep.
Within a few years the poverty in the Red country would be even more staggering than we can imagine. The knowledgeable would flee to the Blue country, assuming they would be allowed to migrate to the better country.
The Blue country would definitely need to lock down the borders or it would be endless caravans of people trying to cross the borders, even lying about needing amnesty or illegally crossing the border looking for work and opportunity. Some Red country people would probably migrate into Mexico for a better quality of life.
You right-wing nutjobs really do live in a delusional world. Do we need to trot out the balance-of-payments stats to show how the red states as a group feed on the federal trough that is funded by blue states? Hmm, I guess we do. Read it and weep.
Within a few years the poverty in the Red country would be even more staggering than we can imagine. The knowledgeable would flee to the Blue country, assuming they would be allowed to migrate to the better country.
The Blue country would definitely need to lock down the borders or it would be endless caravans of people trying to cross the borders, even lying about needing amnesty or illegally crossing the border looking for work and opportunity. Some Red country people would probably migrate into Mexico for a better quality of life.
Sounds pretty good. I can come to the blue country, not pay income taxes, get free health care, a nice free apartment, resettlement assistance, get a free sex change, kill and rape your woman with no consequence, eat a few geese, and then vote. Sounds like a genuine Utopia...not to mention the fabulous theatre scene.
Many of the concerns you bring up were brought up and addressed in our nations founding documents and texts like the federalist papers. I'll start with three major issues with succession.
One the federal government will never allow a state to go without massive conflict. This could be overcome by a group banding together to secede but thar seems highly unlikely.
Two if the US did split up you'd likely see two or three confederations of similar strength with different ideals and priorities. War within a short timeframe would be extremely likely.
Three, during the last civil society was extremely segmented on a few specific issues that split on clear geographic lines. That is not how American is divided today. There are deeply conservative enclaves spread across blue state America and vice versa in the other direction. Are you going to carve Austin out of Texas? What about Colorado mostly surrounded by red states? Not going to work.
The last point is we have a solution. It is called Federalism and is the form of government our country was built on. The answer is a smaller federal government that works within the confines of the constitution and focuses on protecting our borders. Then let the states govern themselves. If we agree to this and national politics have lower stakes the temperature would immediately simmer down. It is frustrating when people call for blowing up the system when moving away from the designed system and ignoring the constitution is what has caused the problem we now have.
You right-wing nutjobs really do live in a delusional world. Do we need to trot out the balance-of-payments stats to show how the red states as a group feed on the federal trough that is funded by blue states? Hmm, I guess we do. Read it and weep.
Within a few years the poverty in the Red country would be even more staggering than we can imagine. The knowledgeable would flee to the Blue country, assuming they would be allowed to migrate to the better country.
The Blue country would definitely need to lock down the borders or it would be endless caravans of people trying to cross the borders, even lying about needing amnesty or illegally crossing the border looking for work and opportunity. Some Red country people would probably migrate into Mexico for a better quality of life.
This is such a stupid and uniformed take. The economic dominance of the blue states specifically the northeast and the beltway of the country is 100% through control of the financial system. This is not a free market result but was a deliberate act through the creation of the federal reserve which preserved New Yorks control of the financial system at a time when the banking system was becoming more decentralized across the county. The Federal Reserve has cemented the Northeast as a financial powerhouse despite the region producing less and less real stuff.
I'm not going to argue red or blue states would be better in a post US government world. But the evaporation of a single national currency would be devastating to regions of the country. I believe states whose economy are most focused on finance, health care, and a lesser extent tech would suffer. States with strong manufacturing and commodities businesses would flourish, especially those who could be energy independent. Agriculture is overrated as well since the US subsidizes overproduction in ag, and ag can easily be imported with the export of more expensive goods and services an advanced economy can produce.
Red and blue states idealogy is more similar than different. Yes, they disagree on a few major issues, but they agree on about 99% of possible issues in total. The disagreements just seem bigger because they get all the focus.
Red and blue states idealogy is more similar than different. Yes, they disagree on a few major issues, but they agree on about 99% of possible issues in total. The disagreements just seem bigger because they get all the focus.
Tru m pers just held a massive "rally" yesterday on the mall. "save our country" or some such nonsense. From what? Record high stocks returns? Too many good jobs available?
Repubs want to burn it down at any cost because they have created and electoral monster (the dipsh!ts of America) who they rely on to reelect them. So absent actual grievance, they invent grievance and throw gas on the fire at every turn.
Gut healthcare
Subjugate women
Gut education
Let Russians and other malcontents run wild
Gut social programs (poor Rs are you listening??)
On the other hand, dems and moderates are desperately trying to talk sense into people.