(2) Both work, pay down house and build a big 401(K) nest egg
(3) At 30 have kids and wife can be a SAHM
This is what I did but neither of my two kids copied me, thankfully. The world (speaking from cultural and technological perspectives) has changed and will keep changing. If I copied my parents, I’d be dressing up in suit coats, singing hymns, and worshipping an imaginary, invisible figment of someone else’s imagination every Sunday. What works for one generation should not be forced on the next.
(2) Both work, pay down house and build a big 401(K) nest egg
(3) At 30 have kids and wife can be a SAHM
This is what I did but neither of my two kids copied me, thankfully. The world (speaking from cultural and technological perspectives) has changed and will keep changing. If I copied my parents, I’d be dressing up in suit coats, singing hymns, and worshipping an imaginary, invisible figment of someone else’s imagination every Sunday. What works for one generation should not be forced on the next.
lol what a imp. You still worship a god you idiot, it’s just whatever you orientated to now - which it seems is being a closet….moron.
anyone who trashed the concept of god as “imaginary” doesn’t have an IQ above 150 and has no understanding of linguistics, topology, or ontology all of which show god is….i don’t even want to explain to this imp intellectual
It seems rare to get married before 30, let alone early 20s nowadays.
Rare? Jesus look at statistics. Everyone here is an idiot and I’m drunk af. Like I literally have to come to this board drunk af to deal with these skinny incel intellectuals
It seems rare to get married before 30, let alone early 20s nowadays.
Rare? Jesus look at statistics. Everyone here is an idiot and I’m drunk af. Like I literally have to come to this board drunk af to deal with these skinny incel intellectuals
Rare? lol you obviously don’t use language how anyone uses it. This is why schizophrenics exist because they take language literally and seriously and then stop giving an f after a while and say “I see things”
This is what I did but neither of my two kids copied me, thankfully. The world (speaking from cultural and technological perspectives) has changed and will keep changing. If I copied my parents, I’d be dressing up in suit coats, singing hymns, and worshipping an imaginary, invisible figment of someone else’s imagination every Sunday. What works for one generation should not be forced on the next.
lol what a imp. You still worship a god you idiot, it’s just whatever you orientated to now - which it seems is being a closet….moron.
anyone who trashed the concept of god as “imaginary” doesn’t have an IQ above 150 and has no understanding of linguistics, topology, or ontology all of which show god is….i don’t even want to explain to this imp intellectual
Every parent I know wishes they had their kids earlier and wishes they had more kids.
The pursuit of money and the idea of endless partying is the source of most of our misery and drug abuse. I did everything that people think they want (delayed marriage, make the money early, etc) and it wasn't that exciting. My life since I got married is so much better.
My sister did it the other way, having her kids right out of college at 22 when she was a lowly teacher. She now has a PhD, is a superintendent, has 3 grown kids and 3 grandchildren, is still young, and lives in a 3 million dollar house. She's had a perfect life.
Have the kids early. It makes you grow up fast. As soon as you're grown up, you figure out how to make the big $ because you have to. Also, kids make all the hard work worth it.
The "problem" with having kids is that once you have them, there's no turning back. If you hate having kids (many do) then you're stuck for life. It can be ruinous for some people. You just don't know.
Furthermore, having kids these days is more about personally psychological fulfillment and in some cases, status-seeking. Peter Zeihan made the observation that having many kids has gone from an "asset" (when we worked on farms, more kids = more labor and security in old age) to a "liability" (as we mostly live in cities/suburbs now, kids something you need to spend massive resources on to raise properly).
Moreover, the social safety net that used to support big families has been fragmented and atomized. We all live separate lives now, no multi-generational households or grandparents living down the block.
Not to mention the religious pressure of having kids which, for the most part, no longer exists in the western world.
So if we're thinking about kids in a completely rational way...
1. Kids are more like expensive pets than assets these days
2. There is very little religious or societal pressure to have kids anymore
3. Kids are very expensive and raising them today requires an enormous amount of attention, energy, money and savvy.
4. Kids could ruin your life if you're not someone who can handle modern parenting.
Reasons to have kids:
1. They make me feel good / bring my life meaning.
There are 3 things which compound in life: relationships, knowledge and money. You should invest in these things early and often. For most people the most important relationship is spouse and kids, so you shouldn’t unnecessarily delay those.
1. Drop out of school/quit your job, make sure you have a list of excuses of why it isn't your fault
2. Move back in with your parents. Invest early in redoing the basement so you have a separate private wing of the house
3. Spend all day posting on letsrun. Never actually go for a run, or visit training or racing threads. Only post about topics such as conspiracy theories, doping accusations, and right wing astroturfing. If you can line up Russian sponsorship that would be best. Then every antivax or "traditional family values" post you make is more $$$ for your Funko Pop collection!
Anecdotal evidence in my little experiment of one, but the people I know that are happiest in their 40's and 50's had their kids young.
And yes it's difficult being a young parent but that pays off by actually having a life when you are "middle aged." Your kids are grown and out of the house and you're just 40. Also you have the energy necessary to deal with little kids AND years later you can actually be a functional involved grandparent.