Serious question (insight appreciated) regarding JI 10000 potential

For sure you don't know it and you are not able to find it with the help of Google.

Are Craig Mottram and Stewy both as big as JI?

having more muscles weighing you down isn't necessarily a bad thing. while having heavier muscles does require you to use more energy to push off your feet, those stronger muscles are more capable of pushing off of your feet than legs with weaker muscles. i'm sure there is a sweet spot, but it balances out in the end. the shorter the distance, the more beneficial the leg strength and the opposite for the long distances. jakob isn't capable of 10000m WR right now, but he's also not trying to be. he isn't giving up on the 1500m until he breaks the WR, so the 10000m WR isn't even being though about.

It was a rhetorical question but you aren't smart enough to see that. He is nowhere near the wr and the world's best times over what some claim here is his "best" distance.

I never stated he couldn't be a medal/gold threat or even the favorite.

I was talking about a WR threat at 10000.

Sure, yeah, fair point and I totally agree.

But, once/if he goes for it, he still has this body type and I doubt he could trim much more weight.

I am asking if his physiology could allow him to reach the 26:10s ballpark even with the proper training approach.

Thks in advance.

You raise a relevant point. The last 10k runner I recall of similar build to Ingebrigtsen was Billy Mills (6'1") in '64. That's a long time ago.

Okay I’m a hew Jakob fan, i think he can take the 5km but 10km and half would be unlikely. Did you see his mechanics at the half, all the African were bouncing because of their tendon anatomy and have way better economy. Jakob kills it on that 1500m - 5000m range because he his a strength runner/power and this combination/style works really well with athletes who you use Bi carb. Road requires a level of anatomical structure that is thin legs high calf lots of Achilles.

there have been WR distance runners 6 ft and plus

Clayton with 208 mar

Ron Clark 10k 2739

in the 1960s

though it mightbe debated weakly that their times are too far away.

im not seeing any absolute limitation for height, near 6 ft fot the right guy.

in the sprints, bolt is still a one of one.

Jakob dominating at 10k+ is the new "Jeremy Wariner could break the 800m record if he lost a few pounds and trained specifically."

You need to factor in that Solinksy did it without the spikes of today. Certainly doesn't close al of that gap, but makes it smaller.

In the 5000, Jakob's forte is championship races. He's won the last two WC's and the last Olympics. Many runners have a faster PR than he does.

Jakob will run sub 12.30 next year if he keeps healthy. You might disagree, just as you didnt thought he would run sub 8 or 7.20...

You are - and you always will be - too stupid to search and find such information.

When trying, you ALWAYS fail. You would also fail to give correctly Ingebrigtsen's 5000m PB.

Hagos Gebrhiwet ran 12:36.73 for 5000m in May. You know what Jakob did to him at the finals in Paris? Casually Jogged around him in the final 200 meters and beat him by 2 seconds. You're telling me the 7:17.55 3K guy couldn't run 12.5 laps at 60s? His 3k avg laps are 58.34s. When Gebrselassie ran 12:39.36 for 5000m, his 3000m PB was 7:25.09 (his 3000m average for 5K was 7:35.62) a 10-second differential of Pace between 3000m and 5000m. Same with many Greats

Haile Gebrselassie - 3000m(7:25.09) / 5000m (12:39.36) = 7:35.62 3000m Pace

Kenenisa Bekele - 3000m (7:25.79) / 5000m (12:37.35) = 7:34.41 3000m Pace

Chris Solinsky - 3000m (7:34.32) / 5000m (12:55.53) = 7:45.32 3000m Pace

Just three examples and all are within the 10-second range. Jakob would only need 12.45-second range.

As for the 10K, while it is largely unknown just because his elite speed is limited to 1500m/5000m. If he breaks 12:30 in the 5K, without a doubt he'd atleast be able to go under 26:30 (Low-balling). At the Olympics he trashed multiple Sub 27 guys and beat
Biniam Mehary. The 17 year old who ran 26:37 for the 10,000m in Spain in June. As bad as he looked running 27:27 in Copenhagen, he was likely tired from having to run 3:30 1500m less than 48 hours before + He had to run after the 27:27 to finish 13.1 miles. Give him 3 months of training and he'd easily drop Sub 26:40 in the 10K. Give him another year and the WR is his. If Chris Solinsky can break 27, Jakob can go below 26:30. Enough said.

That's exactly right. Renato Canova himself in the thread last week said he thinks Jakob could run 12:30 and and around 26:00-26:05.

I come here now just to see Armstronglivs get absolutely flamed by every user on LRC. Weren’t you the one that said he could break the 2000m, 2 mile, and 3000m world records? Don’t you get sick of being so wrong? If he gets in a race where he says he’s going for the record, he’s getting it. 100% success rate so far. Also, if you think the HM was a serious record attempt for Jakob, you’re delusional.

His championship record in 5k races is undeniable. But it may be his peak, as it doesn't indicate that he's capable of the wr in this distance. It also contrasts with his clear vulnerability in the 1500 (although he appears untouchable over the distances in between). However, nothing so far suggests he is capable of excelling over 10k, which is what the thread poses.

Wake me up when he says he's going for the 5k record - or the 10k record. I think there's a good reason why he hasn't attempted it.

However the only thing I may be underestimating is the progress being made in doping. That is driving the sport.