2:55 and 3:00 are kind of similar paces as when you're aiming for sub 3 you will dip into 6:40 pace throughout most of the race. Going for 2:50 would make me nervous even though I could run a 1:18-1:19 half.
I just turned 50, I'll have to check what it is for me. I never ran Boston when I had a chance now I regret (sort of) not doing it. I was at the 2013 Boston marathon and at the finish line when the chaos broke out, but I was there supporting my wife instead of running.
Only one issue...I haven't run since about 2015. Going to take some effort to get back there.
Whole bunch of men need to identify as “non binary” now and just change their mind the day after the race. Men can get pregnant now and you pick your gender, so who cares!
This joke is tired and old, but what needs to happen is the non-binary time qualifiers (for any event or sport, really) should be the same as the men's standards to prevent this sort of thing. I have no qualms with non-binary people or runners, but there will be men who dishonestly enter as non-binary to achieve the slower standard. An easy and simple way to prevent this is to make the non-binary standard the same as the men's standard.
In light of the new standard I have revolutionized and intensified my training. Up to 5 miles a day now with Red Bull in the hydro pack and an energy gel every 1.25 miles. I am moving!
Wake me when Boston gets aggressive about tackling all the bandits.
That'll happen when BAA finally does what Derek Murphy has done and gets aggressive about researching and disqualifying bogus BQ times from course cutters and bib mules. Don't hold your breath. They get their money either way, so they feel there's no incentive to deal with it.
The reality is these races are all business, the application group is actually a small part of the revenue... the real money comes from people that "raise money", basically pay their way into the event. These are not about running fast, it's about attracting people to overpay for the event.
The more you know about the business the less you like it
Always funny when weirdo elitists on this site think they're like a step above hobby-jogging cuz they post on an out of touch running forum, unless you're running consistently in like the 2:20s, you guys are all hobby joggers lmao almost everyone here is
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this method predicted 5:12 in 2024 and it ended up being 5:29
prediction for 2025 is 7:17
however this person estimated 22,500 accepted out of 36,406 instead of the 22,019 that were accepted last year
if you assume that BAA accepts 22,019 again (my guess is that Bank of America forced this decline with more charity or invitational bibs), the prediction is more like 7:30
interestingly enough, if the final cutoff is 17 seconds above the regression prediction again, you get:
7 minutes, 47 seconds, exactly the same as the 2021 cutoff (largest in history)
except in this case the field size is 30,000 instead of 20,000 from COVID, so this will be by far the largest number of rejected qualifier applications in history (over 14,000)
The reality is these races are all business, the application group is actually a small part of the revenue... the real money comes from people that "raise money", basically pay their way into the event. These are not about running fast, it's about attracting people to overpay for the event.
The more you know about the business the less you like it
I ran in either 2008 or 2009 and had qualified a few months before (Jan or Feb) with a 3:08. I doubt you could get in now in the same calendar year. On the bus to the start I talked to people around me and realized I was the only one who actually had a qualifying time. Everyone else did the charity entry and paid a lot!
I finished in 3:01:xx and was in the top 1500 of 25K+ runners and the weather was decent. Pretty clear not many had the ability to run a qualifying time.
I'm glad I did it. It was well run. The spectator support was unbelievable.
One more note, a 2:55 is more like 3:05+ pre-shoes. So I am not sure this is really any harder than it was 16 years ago. I say this because in my late 30s I ran 2:58 and in my late 40s in the new shoes I ran 2:51 and felt better doing it. My training didn't change much and you don't get faster in that decade...
DISCUSS, not DISCUS....DISCUSS has 2 S's. Do better.
There seems to be someone who doesn't get the joke on every thread where it's used lately. I'm starting to wonder if the guy who "doesn't get the joke" is actually just a second-level troll.
Whole bunch of men need to identify as “non binary” now and just change their mind the day after the race. Men can get pregnant now and you pick your gender, so who cares!
This joke is tired and old, but what needs to happen is the non-binary time qualifiers (for any event or sport, really) should be the same as the men's standards to prevent this sort of thing. I have no qualms with non-binary people or runners, but there will be men who dishonestly enter as non-binary to achieve the slower standard. An easy and simple way to prevent this is to make the non-binary standard the same as the men's standard.
Or just don't have a non-binary division at all and make the divisions based on biological sex like it should be.
Whole bunch of men need to identify as “non binary” now and just change their mind the day after the race. Men can get pregnant now and you pick your gender, so who cares!
This joke is tired and old, but what needs to happen is the non-binary time qualifiers (for any event or sport, really) should be the same as the men's standards to prevent this sort of thing. I have no qualms with non-binary people or runners, but there will be men who dishonestly enter as non-binary to achieve the slower standard. An easy and simple way to prevent this is to make the non-binary standard the same as the men's standard.
There is no such thing as non-binary humans, it is a made up thing.
