Rowbury now an Olympic medalist !?!?

Two more quick points:

1) I am shocked how few of the athletes I knew in that race. They were not the stars of today. Maybe I was just busy back then, but half those names mean nothing to me.

2) I think we need to be fair to Uceny. She was the one who got tripped. She didn't cause it. That sucked for her. If an idiot rear-ends you on the highway and then it a happens again a year later, that doesn't automatically mean you are a bad driver. Some people have been known to have bad luck.

Why is Jamal assumed to be dirty? Did you follow women's 1500m during that time?

The only things going against Jamal is that she is an Ethiopian representing Bahrain and that she was competitive with the doping Russians from 2005-2009. Uceny was better in 2010 and then Jamal had a bad season in 2011 when she fell at the World Championships.

Rowbury on the other hand was actually coached Salazar after 2013.

her being a foreign athlete competing for bahrain is a very very good reason for scepticism

quick look at other bahrain olympic medallists:

rashid ramzi: cheat

eunice kirwa: cheat

ruth chebet: cheat

salwa eid naser: cheat

kalkidan gezahegne: (??? associated with jama aden)

winfred yavi: (??? watch her last race)

I can make a much longer list with American athletes.

I get the impression that you didn't follow athletics at that time. If you did you would know Jamal herself was cheated out of multiple medals at the Helsinki 2005 WC, Moscow 2006 WIC, Valencia 2008 WIC and the Beijing Olympics (3 suspicious medallists).
All you see is Bahrain and scream "doper"!

Either way, Rowbury actually has legit evidence for suspicion, as she was coached by Salazar.

True - but she may have decided to switch over to the dark side after said 2012 race, because that clearly showed what has to be done to be competitive globally.

let's not treat each other like idiots here.

there have been plenty of dopers from the us, sure.

but the proportion of successful athletes who have a ban or heavy suspicion over them is vastly, vastly smaller.

i've followed the sport for 30 odd years, your inference is wrong. 2005-12 is not very long ago; a friend competed at the 04 olympics and i attended the london olympics.

She isn't wearing the lipstick in this race!

But the US has hundreds of Olympic level athletes, not all of whom are doping. Bahrain has like 9 athletes and 8 have been busted. Do you see the difference?

And wasn't Rowbury only with Salazar after this time? So how does that matter at all?

Yes, Salazar camp was after 2012 and because Cooke retired. She was a Nike athlete and had few options. She was also being coached by Pete during that period up until her retirement.

Nothing to see here. Very consistent athlete.

Rowbury was probably reasonably clean when she ran London in 2012 (if she was doing anything unsavory it was probably legal at the time). Once she ran Rio in 2016 she was glowing with just about anything Salazar could get away with giving her. And yes, this was probably a dark-side turn in response to what she felt got taken away from her in London. She has since cleaned up but is of course minimally relevant these days.

Hahaha, saying the only thing against Jamal is that she's 'An Ethiopian representing Bahrain' is more incriminating than if you'd have said the only thing against her is that she wrote a book called 'EPO and me, why I love it and took it my whole career'.

Are saying Cole and Josh and Nguse are shady?

Looking for Frank Shorter to get his second Olympic Marathon gold medal...

I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars Rowbury missed out on by being unable to market herself as an Olympic medalist for the last 8 years of her career?

She and Pablo have made fairly good money either way if they and their child are comfortably living in a city as expensive as San Francisco. I don't think the lack of that marketing tag made much of a difference in her career or earning power, especially with her T&F sponsors likely giving her the benefit of the doubt with that once all the dopers in the race started getting caught and banned.

This thread is about Rowbury. Why are you making it about Uceny?

Well, he posted about the race and found it remarkable that 5 women have been disqualified and that the American, Uceny, who ALWAYS FELL, fell…

so it looks like it falls on me to remind everyone that Shannon was in a very suspicious group during all of this as well...

Just like Malmo, he (Abraham Chebii) knows what he's talking about lol. according to Wikipedia he made Kenya's 2004 olympic 5000 team and has run 12:52. Malmo ran 1:01 when it'd have been a WR I think (but 2nd in the race)?