I’d bet Khan was doping long before he got to Florida.
Because he was fast in high school, like a certain female athlete with the initials KT, (or EL, or SE, etc.)? Or is it also because he’s from India? Or if he was from Zkenya? But according to the astro knockoff, that is racism. 🙄
Dumbest post in a while, and that is saying something for LRC.
If you take just a moment to educate yourself on the rampant doping issues in India, and the issues with drug paraphernalia found in bathroom stalls at their national championships, you would understand this is not a Florida coaching staff issue.
I was talking to a buddy about the Khan case and he said something I hadn't even contemplated. He said, "It's not like I think Will Palmer is doping the whole team including Valby."
I hadn't even contemplated something like that. BUt it blew my mind to even contemplate a Valby connection. Let me be clear I don't think that's what is going on here but must admit we'd never seen an Indian so good and we've never seen a low mileage woman so good.
What are the odds? I'd say less than 1% that Valby is also on EPO. What do you think?
What I think is that you have too much time on your hands.
I don't believe shoe companies care. They'll hide it if they can, and in most cases, especially one particular shoe company, they can!
I know for a fact that CJ Hunter was going to be permitted to participate in the Olympics even though he had tested positive. His association (husband) with Marion Jones made him too valuable to be popped for PEDS. She was the marketing golden girl at the time. USATF, with extreme pressure from Nike had it all hidden for months until someone leaked it from USATF forcing their hand. A close friend worked for USATF in Indianapolis at the time and told me this several weeks before it was disclosed.
Mary Slaney had her case hidden for months as well. USATF said they needed to await the appeals process, but my friend told me long before it was announced that they were negotiating with the shoe company to disclose, not disclose, hide, or whatever other option they agreed upon.
This was all long ago, so the shoe influence may not be as strong. Orrrrr, it could be stronger than ever. Personally, I don't know but I have little trust in USATF and shoe companies.
wouldn't even care if i sponsored Valby and she ended up doping, as we'd still make a lot of money with her before she got caught. then once caught we cancel the contract and move onto the next beautiful face. it's not that complicated.
She's dirty but these companies (especially Nike) don't much care about that.
The only thing I’ll agree with the LRC crowd being tossed around Khan: if it’s too good to be true; it usually is. Valby barely runs, brags about cross training and now an Olympian? Red flags all around.
A 10-year global study of positive doping tests by children and young teenagers showed most sanctions came from Russia, India, and China and in sports like weightlifting, athletics, and cycling, the World Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday.
But if we’re being fair, how many junior athletes in the us get drug tested. The NCAA doesn’t really, high school generally doesn’t. So it’s more of a selection bias. Of course there’ll be more positive tests because more are happening.
I was talking to a buddy about the Khan case and he said something I hadn't even contemplated. He said, "It's not like I think Will Palmer is doping the whole team including Valby."
I hadn't even contemplated something like that. BUt it blew my mind to even contemplate a Valby connection. Let me be clear I don't think that's what is going on here but must admit we'd never seen an Indian so good and we've never seen a low mileage woman so good.
What are the odds? I'd say less than 1% that Valby is also on EPO. What do you think?
this is a thread? this is a stupid question. what are you a fan of? incompetence?
A 10-year global study of positive doping tests by children and young teenagers showed most sanctions came from Russia, India, and China and in sports like weightlifting, athletics, and cycling, the World Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday.
But if we’re being fair, how many junior athletes in the us get drug tested. The NCAA doesn’t really, high school generally doesn’t. So it’s more of a selection bias. Of course there’ll be more positive tests because more are happening.
This is an important point. The US approach is "don't test, don't catch" and "if you do test and find a positive, blame it on the food supply chain." Khan is getting so much heat and so many are raising his nationality to explain it, as if Erriyon Knighton wasn't also sanctioned earlier this year (he's also based in Florida). As ever, guilt or otherwise on these boards is often determined by the passport that the offender holds
A 10-year global study of positive doping tests by children and young teenagers showed most sanctions came from Russia, India, and China and in sports like weightlifting, athletics, and cycling, the World Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday.
As for Parker, I am suspicious of her separately from this situation. I don't think that her being college teammates with someone means she is doping because he was. When I was in college I was friends with my teammates, but I had no idea what they were off doing. I guess it's possible they could have been doping under my nose. I was too busy in classes, with other friends, to know or care.
It's not like a pro group where everyone is so much more in each other's business and everyone is running for job.
But I do thin outlier behavior is weird. If someone is running record times into their late thirties and forties, that's weird. If someone is running multiple distance events at the Olympics and medals in all of them, that's weird. If someone took five full years off after having a relatively mediocre running career only to come back in their thirties and medal at the oLympics that's weird, if someone drops tons of time in the span of 1 year to also medal at the olympics that's weird.
If someone is affiliating with sketchy coaches and teammates who are busted for doping that's weird.
And if someone has dominated the NCAA and made the Olympics by cross-training....?
did the nike oregon project stop anyone from wearing the vaporfly/alphafly/dragonfly/victory? nope. companies will just say that they had nothing to do with whether or not their sponsored athletes are cheating or not.
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