The article seems to suggest it happened before 2021.
Centro or Jaeger... No one else was 'worth' protecting by any reasonable standard
It’s definitely Jager. As for the “two lesser athletes” those could really be anybody. It’s 100% NOT Emma Coburn as one of the poster’s higher up suggested.
Centro or Jaeger... No one else was 'worth' protecting by any reasonable standard
It’s definitely Jager. As for the “two lesser athletes” those could really be anybody. It’s 100% NOT Emma Coburn as one of the poster’s higher up suggested.
It’s definitely Jager. As for the “two lesser athletes” those could really be anybody. It’s 100% NOT Emma Coburn as one of the poster’s higher up suggested.
Jager is not officially retired
He was at one point and then decided to make a comeback
WADA’s statement is very strongly worded against USADA but it is too little too late. They knew about these offenses since 2021 and did nothing until Reuters broke the story.
WADA said they had no choice but to not name the athlete, which I disagree with, but let’s say that’s true. They still could have publicized USADA’s infractions at the time they discovered them. Instead, now they act appalled about what occurred now that the world knows.
Reminds me of the NFL upping Ray Rice’s suspension after the video came out.
WADA said they had no choice but to not name the athlete, which I disagree with, but let’s say that’s true. They still could have publicized USADA’s infractions at the time they discovered them. Instead, now they act appalled about what occurred now that the world knows.
According to USADA's statement, it's likely due to the fact that this was in coordination with the DEA and FBI, and would risk investigations.
Ironically, the expansive investigations done by USADA and the involved IF demonstrates exactly what WADA should have done with the Chinese swimmers’ positives.
"WADA and the IF were also aware of the athletes’ cooperation, including the athletes’ return to competition, one of which was necessary for the U.S. federal law enforcement (the Drug Enforcement Agency and FBI) investigation into a human and drug trafficking scheme.
During these investigations, the athletes provided intelligence to federal law enforcement, USADA, and the IF that led to criminal charges and anti-doping rule violations. USADA collaborated closely with WADA and the IF to ensure that those engaging in doping violations, as well as criminal offenses, were identified and prosecuted to the fullest extent possible. WADA was notified of the violations and sanction, and WADA did not appeal them, though they had the right to do so. The Code allows for substantial assistance, such as what was provided in this case, and WADA did not initiate a compliance case against USADA as they should have if they truly believed we failed to follow the rules."
WADA’s statement is very strongly worded against USADA but it is too little too late. They knew about these offenses since 2021 and did nothing until Reuters broke the story.
WADA said they had no choice but to not name the athlete, which I disagree with, but let’s say that’s true. They still could have publicized USADA’s infractions at the time they discovered them. Instead, now they act appalled about what occurred now that the world knows.
Reminds me of the NFL upping Ray Rice’s suspension after the video came out.
I don’t know if there are many boxing fans at the LetsRun forum, but American writer Thomas Hauser has spent years carefully documenting USADA’s failure to act in a professional manner in the boxing world.
Thomas Hauser wrote:
On September 7 of this year, I posted an investigative report on this website entitled “1,501 Tests, One Reported Positive? What’s Going On with USADA and Boxing?”
The article was based on data taken from USADA’s own website in addition to interviews with state athletic commission personnel and experts in the field of performance enhancing drugs. It raised troubling questions regarding the role that USADA plays in boxing today.
USADA has been testing professional boxers for performance enhancing drugs since 2010. As of September 6, 2018, its website stated that it had administered 1,501 tests on 128 professional boxers through August 22 of this year. Yet in all these years, USADA had reported only one adverse finding regarding a professional boxer to a governing state athletic commission.
What has happened since then?
First, USADA has now conceded to multiple third parties (who request that their names not be mentioned in this article) that there was more than one positive test result but that USADA chose to adjudicate these matters internally without reporting the positive test result to the opposing fighter’s camp or state athletic commission that had oversight responsibility with regard to a given fight.
USADA has been testing professional boxers for performance enhancing drugs since 2010. As of September 6, 2018, its website stated that it had administered
Statement says "an elite level athlete, who competed at Olympic qualifier and international events in the United States, admitted to taking steroids and EPO yet was permitted to continue competing all the way up to retirement. Their case was never published, results never disqualified, prize money never returned, and no suspension ever served. The athlete was allowed to line up against their unknowing competitors as if they had never cheated."
Does this suggest that the athlete in question never made a US team? Or is it suggesting only that the Trials and one or more international meet(s) in the US are where they happened to test positive?
All we know is he is an American, and that there is obviously a doping problem in the USA in distance running. Yet posters here still claim that the Brits are all dirty, while Hocker going from getting outkicked by Gourely and Reynould Cheruiyot at Pre, to running the craziest last 300 ever, in a 3:27 Olympic final 10 weeks later, is as wholesome as American Pie.
You geniuses all accusing Hocker of doping based on Pre-->Olympics results don't seem to understand how doping works. In fact, this actually is evidence of a clean athlete.
Statement says "an elite level athlete, who competed at Olympic qualifier and international events in the United States, admitted to taking steroids and EPO yet was permitted to continue competing all the way up to retirement. Their case was never published, results never disqualified, prize money never returned, and no suspension ever served. The athlete was allowed to line up against their unknowing competitors as if they had never cheated."
Does this suggest that the athlete in question never made a US team? Or is it suggesting only that the Trials and one or more international meet(s) in the US are where they happened to test positive?
Uncertain, but perhaps the focus is on their performances in the US because that’s where USADA has responsibility for testing. Abroad, other NADOs would test on behalf of USADA.
Most American pros go to Europe at some point, so would be odd to find a pro who only stayed at home to compete.
Should the US be banned from international competition?
Absolutely it should.
Biggest state sanctioned doping regime in the world currently.
Ban the US ? Are you kidding? World Athletics will file for bankruptcy in 24 hours if the US and sponsors pull the plug.
Better for the AIU to continue its present mission of investigating and banning mostly dead-end or aspiring athletes from the third world and declaring victory every day in its phony war on doping.
World Athletics motto should be: 'We will never bite the finger that feeds us'.
WADA’s statement is very strongly worded against USADA but it is too little too late. They knew about these offenses since 2021 and did nothing until Reuters broke the story.
WADA said they had no choice but to not name the athlete, which I disagree with, but let’s say that’s true. They still could have publicized USADA’s infractions at the time they discovered them. Instead, now they act appalled about what occurred now that the world knows.
Reminds me of the NFL upping Ray Rice’s suspension after the video came out.
I don’t know if there are many boxing fans at the LetsRun forum, but American writer Thomas Hauser has spent years carefully documenting USADA’s failure to act in a professional manner in the boxing world.
Thomas Hauser wrote:
On September 7 of this year, I posted an investigative report on this website entitled “1,501 Tests, One Reported Positive? What’s Going On with USADA and Boxing?”
The article was based on data taken from USADA’s own website in addition to interviews with state athletic commission personnel and experts in the field of performance enhancing drugs. It raised troubling questions regarding the role that USADA plays in boxing today.
USADA has been testing professional boxers for performance enhancing drugs since 2010. As of September 6, 2018, its website stated that it had administered 1,501 tests on 128 professional boxers through August 22 of this year. Yet in all these years, USADA had reported only one adverse finding regarding a professional boxer to a governing state athletic commission.
What has happened since then?
First, USADA has now conceded to multiple third parties (who request that their names not be mentioned in this article) that there was more than one positive test result but that USADA chose to adjudicate these matters internally without reporting the positive test result to the opposing fighter’s camp or state athletic commission that had oversight responsibility with regard to a given fight.
Before I get any anti-Brit responses, I have made many detailed posts at LetsRun outlining the failure of UKAD to act professionally.
We need to can the idea of national testing agencies, it’s literally the fox guarding the hen house. They should push that funding into WADA and AIU taking over all the testing and enforcement. It’s the only chance we have to clean up the sport.
Completely agree. I think it's getting swept under the rug because everyone is so focused on the US distance team doing so well in Paris. After Paris, I would love to see someone with a following pick this up and do some digging (e.g. LetsRun, Citius, etc)
This was about busting Alberto. It was Ritz who admitted he was doped and in return got no ban. I hope one day all of this comes out. How we ban a coach, but no athletes get popped is crazy
He won't because he is the 1 who bought them two burritos. He enhanced one, got distracted, forgot which one he juiced, then doubled the juice on it. He ended up giving her the double, when it should have been his. AlSal taught him to stay in the gray-zone. Little C screwed up.
This was about busting Alberto. It was Ritz who admitted he was doped and in return got no ban.
This sounds like the most likely to me or centro. Weird how they mentioned all of the “we didn’t release their name because of potential threats.” I can see a lot of blowback and “cancelling” but would this athlete really be in much harm other than people hating them?
All we know is he is an American, and that there is obviously a doping problem in the USA in distance running. Yet posters here still claim that the Brits are all dirty, while Hocker going from getting outkicked by Gourely and Reynould Cheruiyot at Pre, to running the craziest last 300 ever, in a 3:27 Olympic final 10 weeks later, is as wholesome as American Pie.
I've been watching Hocker for years. He always had a steady progression, awaiting one breakthrough. Stop throwing dirt here. And tbh, he's such a religious person who credited his win to God right after the final. He would be the last person to cheat. Doesn't he fear the punishment in the afterlife?
If you think that's suspicious, then Jakob is even more suspicious this year. He went from diving to win with a 3:29 to a 3:26 and then front-running a 3:28.