This is our problem. You may hate me for saying it, but making a joke about women SHOULD be no different than making a joke about men, or about a president, or presidential candidate. We hear bad jokes about men all the time, especially white men. We hear TERRIBLE things about Trump. All of that is okay. But make one bad joke about women and your livelihood is gone. And worse, you call it deplorable? That's a ridiculous categorization of this joke. Men are committing suicide at a rate 4 times higher than women. They sustain most work-related deaths. I know MANY white men who have been passed over for a position BECAUSE they were white men. White men are treated worse than any other demographic in this country and it isn't close. If you weren't so brainwashed, you'd see it.
This is our problem. You may hate me for saying it, but making a joke about women SHOULD be no different than making a joke about men, or about a president, or presidential candidate. We hear bad jokes about men all the time, especially white men. We hear TERRIBLE things about Trump. All of that is okay. But make one bad joke about women and your livelihood is gone. And worse, you call it deplorable? That's a ridiculous categorization of this joke. Men are committing suicide at a rate 4 times higher than women. They sustain most work-related deaths. I know MANY white men who have been passed over for a position BECAUSE they were white men. White men are treated worse than any other demographic in this country and it isn't close. If you weren't so brainwashed, you'd see it.
This is our problem. You may hate me for saying it, but making a joke about women SHOULD be no different than making a joke about men, or about a president, or presidential candidate. We hear bad jokes about men all the time, especially white men. We hear TERRIBLE things about Trump. All of that is okay. But make one bad joke about women and your livelihood is gone. And worse, you call it deplorable? That's a ridiculous categorization of this joke. Men are committing suicide at a rate 4 times higher than women. They sustain most work-related deaths. I know MANY white men who have been passed over for a position BECAUSE they were white men. White men are treated worse than any other demographic in this country and it isn't close. If you weren't so brainwashed, you'd see it.
I don't hate you for saying, I hate you because you're coming across with the same, tired, old, defeated, right wing bullsh!t that spawned Andrew Tate and company on Twitter.
"We hear terrible things about a man who has assaulted women, defrauded working men and women, let over 200,000 Americans die because he didn't like that they didn't vote for him, and I don't know why people hate Trump!"
A basic requirement for being a sports announcer is you need to respect the athletes in the competition you’re announcing. He showed he doesn’t meet that requirement. He has to go.
After the 4 x 100 relay, the women went off screen and he said, “Well, the women [are] just finishing up. You know what women are like… hanging around, doing their make-up."
I'd like to hear the tone of voice and can't find the actual clip, but tend to think this is an overreaction. Can't people be off-color? Or have bad jokes? Susdpent him maybe. Fine him. Fire him? No.
between stuff like THIS and the disaster of an opening ceremony, these olympics are some of the worst ever. The woke BS spreading throughout the world is absolutely ruining everything.
Why did his co-commentator "immediately call his comment outrageous" ? Is she really that woke?
After the 4 x 100 relay, the women went off screen and he said, “Well, the women [are] just finishing up. You know what women are like… hanging around, doing their make-up."
I'd like to hear the tone of voice and can't find the actual clip, but tend to think this is an overreaction. Can't people be off-color? Or have bad jokes? Susdpent him maybe. Fine him. Fire him? No.
When will men learn that insulting women under the guise of a "joke" is deplorable behavior.
Men and women both do this during stand-up comedy constantly. As a generality we see the world differently.
Sometimes I feel like it is only deplorable when men do it. Women can say just about anything they want.
I can see why men would think it is funny and women wouldn't. It's the same old thing. Men don't understand why its necessary for women to put on make-up after a race and women want to look good on the media. Is this really sexist or just a case of our genders seeing things differently. Do women expect that men should want to put on make-up before an interview.
I still think he should have known better than to say that. I don't know at what point it should be decided someone should be fired or suspended. It's a business. If the business feel that it will be too much of a hit against the business then that's the way it rolls. Maybe the guy had other strikes against him.
Also I'm not sure the entire context. I do know my daughter says it takes 20 minutes to get in and out of those bathing suits so there is that.
A basic requirement for being a sports announcer is you need to respect the athletes in the competition you’re announcing. He showed he doesn’t meet that requirement. He has to go.
While I agree with you I think it is more disrespectful how sports announcers devote 95 percent of the time to 1 athlete and 5 percent to the rest of the field. This is a much bigger problem.
He may be able to win a wrongful firing suit, once some time passes and the validation craving over reactors can get a grip or are distracted by their next venture. Perhaps they'll just offer him a job back after a while to avoid a potential lawsuit.
They're a bunch of never has beens who spend their days looking for these type of things, to garner manufactured attention from. They are a social justice warrior, working to fill their giant void.
Since women are silently perceived as the weaker demographic, people will be sensitive to any perceived slight against them, even if it's the truth. The same goes for targeting a historically oppressed demographic such as POC. People are trained to be ultra sensitive. But if the stronger demographic is attacked, such as men, there's rarely a problem, making double standards rampant and highly disturbing.
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my first instinct was that it was harsh to instantly fire him, but this comment was so stupid and unprofessional like sir, you are at WORK and it is your job to do commentary on athletes. Clearly he's not capable if this is what he feels is okay to say about them into the mic.
There are still shamefully few women commentators in sports. They don't even get the chance. And this is who we give these jobs to?
also, can we all shut the hell up about the opening ceremonies? you all sound dumb and prudish getting all offended over another country's choices. It's France, you can't blame the "squad" for this. Calm down.
I am curious as if you have ever said anything similarily inappropriate, either today or 1972. Would you elect to be fired? Either way, let’s do some digging.
This remark was one of those where you could understand his producer telling him to be more respectful next time or giving an apology but he doesn't deserve major consequences. Men shouldn't be insulted either as a matter of policy but if you say that they are beleaguered it is true only on the margins. After all, men run almost all governments and corporations in the world, make much more money, and almost never have to fear violence from women, don't get a lot of catcalls or stalkers--though they happen occasionally--can go out at night by themselves without too much concern, and mostly don't worry about their appearance, etc. So, don't feel too sorry for the men.
Thanks for sharing. So it was meant as a joke and female commentator laughed it so I wouldn't call it deplorable behavior.
No way he should be fired. We need to let people make bad jokes. Make him apologize but do not send him home.
There's a reason why kids are struggling so much and so anxious. Thanks to phones and social media, everything they ever do is recorded for posterity. One slipup and your are screwed and this is proof positive of it.
I remember when the wife of Ozzy Ozbourne and other women on some talk show laughed hysterically about male castration, and there were no consequences.
Meanwhile, hundreds of Russian and Ukrainian male conscripts are being blown up by drones in trenches every single day, whilst their wives and girlfriends sit about at home putting on their make-up and making TikTok videos.
1. He should be fired for using a lazy tired stereotyped joke.
2. He should be fired for the underlying sexism in his joke.
3. He should be fired because he knows better.
4. He should be fired because announcing isn't a right. Make a mistake, you are out. This isn't 4 year old rec league soccer.
5. He should be fired because this is 2024. This kind of joke was "funnny" in 1972 for men. Not sure women ever found this kind of joke funny.
6. He should be fired because advertisers pay for women to watch. Alienating your financial security is just bad business.
It's hard to disagree with any of these points. These kind of jokes are only funny when said in the right context with a female friend, not when hanging out with the lads. kinda like making racist jokes, you do it with close friends that get you, not in a public arena where some people might think you are serious
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