As everyone has said for about a year now Teare needs to move to the steeple. He’s never going to make a team in the 1500 and he doesn’t appear to have the championship racing chops needed for the 5000. Moving to the steeple puts him in an event that in the US is weaker right now. This is his best chance to make a national team.
Obviously cause for concern given that this was the meet to peak for, but I think he just had a bad Trials. There may be something to the recommendation to try longer races and try the steeple, but his times are good, and I think he has quality championship races in his future.
The years pass by very quickly and to me he seems to be all over the place. Sure, he has decent PBs but has he been a factor in major races? These next two years are key but I don’t think much will change. I assume he is happy though, he has found love and they share a hype beast, arty, hipster lifestyle and gets paid to train.
Teare's career will probably look like Chris Derrick's. Success at XC (with watered down competition) and he already made the only worlds/olympic track team he will ever make in Eugene in 2022. Taller guys tend to have shorter careers at a high level, so he better figure something out fast.
the Marathon. Teare needs to move to the marathon and dominate
Hey, you don't remember Bob Kennedy. He had a sensational kick!
Teare will be a damn good 5k runner at the championship level when he drops the 1500. He's a solid 1500 guy, but doesn't have the closing speed to match the the real MD guys. He beat Grant head to head at pac 12's, he beat Grijalva at NCAA's, he got 4th at 2021 trials, 5th last year. Race the 5k fresh, he makes the team.
Cooper is still really young. Look at Woody Kincaid, he is making teams and looking great and is over 30.
Teare has all the ability in the world, he will be a factor for the next world/ Olympic teams
Teare has demonstrated some poor judgment, that won’t change.
Wwwwwwwwww wrote:
He was never in it this 5k. Or 1500m. It is hard to imagine things being much different at 10k. He isn’t exactly speed limited at the 5000 where going to the 10k is an obvious solution.
He was obviously off at the trials. He can definitely do better, he just happened to have a bad month at the worst possible time.
He had the “worst possible month” at the 2023 US Champs though too. I think most of us would like to see a 3:32/12:54 guy make team USA, but the fact is that he doesn’t seem to be able to place when it matters even if he’s popping off fast times.
FormerStopWatch wrote:
Cooper is still really young. Look at Woody Kincaid, he is making teams and looking great and is over 30.
Teare has all the ability in the world, he will be a factor for the next world/ Olympic teams
Tend to agree. He's almost 2 years younger than Abdi Nur. Sure, Blanks and Wolfe are young and promising, but Cooper at his best is right there with Nur and Fisher in that kick. He probably needs to narrow his Trials focus to the 5,000.
teare brought his B game and foolishly diluted his limited energy on the double.
he needed hi A game to make any team.
so the hubris is quite something.
Teare has 330 in him. and with his A game he can get to what? 1245?
meanwhile you need 1235 to get on the podium.
or fluke arriving with your A game and close in 53 or less.
whatever the calculation teare needs to progress to A game and play his cards right.
all of which is obvious, where the better posters are screaming for him to do so.
however, from a fun side, i would do coe training, run some 8s, and see if the 200 can be run under 22, and go from there.
that is if i was 20 years old.
He suffers in the heat. Either he makes changes in training to handle the heat, or he will continue to run very fast times in good conditions and struggle in championship meets outdoors.
Str8 Fax wrote:
Teare will be a damn good 5k runner at the championship level when he drops the 1500. He's a solid 1500 guy, but doesn't have the closing speed to match the the real MD guys. He beat Grant head to head at pac 12's, he beat Grijalva at NCAA's, he got 4th at 2021 trials, 5th last year. Race the 5k fresh, he makes the team.
Good points. He needs to race fresh. He is back to the coach that got him to 4th at the 2021 trials, NCAA Record and win, and now 12:54. It can take some time to get used to a training plan and life situation.
Idk man
That USA Cross country win was against such a soft field. At the time of the race, Emmanuel Bor was the only runner in the field who had went sub 13:30 or sub 28 (excluding Teare), and he's a thousand years old.
The race was also slow, and Teare's 1500 PR is literally at least twelve seconds faster than everyone except Bor's, who he only has 9 seconds on.
Pretty sure Bryce Hoppel would have finished second in that one. Lyles maybe third.
Feels like this was the Olympic cycle for Teare. Four years from now, I don't see him getting a 5 or 10K slot. In a big race, Fisher, Wolfe, Blanks, Young, Nur, Hunter, Hocker in the 5, Jacobs might all have him beat. I just don't see where he's gonna get a spot.
Steeple might be the move.
12:54
running fast time trials in meaningless races doesn't mean you can run championship races
12:54 is great. He is beyond good and has overflowing potential. The XC win and 2022 USA 1500m title also great! Leave it at that. USA running is at a super high level of late. Don’t have a great day and you miss out of world events, sure, but still Cooper is a top talent!
5313-175 wrote:
Teare has demonstrated some poor judgment, that won’t change.
Oh come on, cut the kid some slack. Yes, he made some bad decisions soon out of college switching teams and running two events at the Trials. I'm hopeful that this will be motivation for him to really train, missing out on the Olympics with his pedigree and seeing Cole have success. He's really young, no need to doubt him so early in his career.