Rome Diamond League Live Recap
Watch on Youtube

Cheruiyot Was Robbed at Oslo!

Pro News/Info/Results
Reply
Moderation
1 2 3 6
Next
  • registered

    coach

    Member since 07/01/2002.

    14,389 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 9:52am EDT
    re: ftyhjkk

    ftyhjkk wrote:

    I have had the same thoughts when other races have been decided on a dive like this, but thems the breaks I guess. We have to pick some criteria that the photo finish can see. Maybe hips or bellybutton could work instead of what they do now.

    Yes, Cheruiyot completed this distance faster with his whole body. OTOH, we don't judge swimming by the first person to get their whole body out of the pool. Diving isn't easy to do effectively, so it's rarely done on purpose.

    Why are swim races decided by who touches the wall with your fingers. I think you should need to have your face hit the wall.

  • Ruxton Towers XC

    Member since 11/19/2022.

    5,292 posts. Last post 10 months ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 10:05am EDT
    re: How are these things decided?

    In speed skating it is the blade of the skate.

    Swimming it is the hand on the wall, nothing else.

    In football it is any part of the ball (even just the tip).

    In running it is the chest. That is why people throw their chest forward in sprints (lean at the line!).

    It is just the rule of our sport. It has to do with impossibility of judging the "most hind part of the runner's body crossing the line" since that would be obscured from the camera (or the judges) by the bodies of the other runners in close races. The first part of the runner (besides the hands), is the easiest thing to see. It literally hits the tape first.

    This post was edited 36 seconds after it was posted.
  • registered

    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

    45,905 posts. Last post 36 minutes ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 11:09am EDT
    re: tyty

    tyty wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    It shows desperation, not authority. Not the most glorious way to get to the top of the dais. It would be fitting if he dived off it.

    Who said anything about authority? He won.

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

  • maybe it was staged?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 11:12am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    maybe it was staged? wrote:

    Whether Jakob, dived, fell or lunged desperately at the line is irrelevant. His torso crossed the line first, so he is declared the winner.

    It shows desperation, not authority. Not the most glorious way to get to the top of the dais. It would be fitting if he dived off it.

    He desperately wanted to win in front of his home crowd. He succeeded. Dramatically.

  • y'all the ones who are desperate

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 11:23am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    tyty wrote:

    Who said anything about authority? He won.

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

    I was convinced. The thing convinced me was seeing the 1 next to his name.

    People will seriously knock the guy for anything just bc they don't like him. Last week it was that he didn't kick and looked like he didn't care about the win. Now it's that he was too desperate at the finish. The mental gymnastics are wild.

  • tyty

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 11:29am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    tyty wrote:

    Who said anything about authority? He won.

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

    Like this runner won in desperation? Are you going to say it was also not particularly convincing for you, a fan who lauds him as the 800m GOAT?

    Open image

  • registered

    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

    45,905 posts. Last post 36 minutes ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 1:41pm EDT
    re: y'all the ones who are desperate

    y\'all the ones who are desperate wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

    I was convinced. The thing convinced me was seeing the 1 next to his name.

    People will seriously knock the guy for anything just bc they don't like him. Last week it was that he didn't kick and looked like he didn't care about the win. Now it's that he was too desperate at the finish. The mental gymnastics are wild.

    You are apparently not one of those who says Jakob always wants to win dominantly. By the skin of his teeth doesn't quite fit that description.

  • registered

    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

    45,905 posts. Last post 36 minutes ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 1:48pm EDT
    re: tyty

    tyty wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

    Like this runner won in desperation? Are you going to say it was also not particularly convincing for you, a fan who lauds him as the 800m GOAT?

    Image:encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tb...

    You are surely one of the most stupid posters on this site. You obviously never saw this race. Snell was boxed in into the home straight, a gap opened and he surged through the field and past Moens, who was leading, to win by a metre. It was a convincing victory. He didn't dive across the line to collapse on the track, trying to fend off another runner who was cutting him down - while his fans laud his largely nonexistent kick. You should just *** off and waste someone else's time.

  • maybe it was staged?

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 2:36pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    tyty wrote:

    Like this runner won in desperation? Are you going to say it was also not particularly convincing for you, a fan who lauds him as the 800m GOAT?

    Image:encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tb...

    You are surely one of the most stupid posters on this site. You obviously never saw this race. Snell was boxed in into the home straight, a gap opened and he surged through the field and past Moens, who was leading, to win by a metre. It was a convincing victory. He didn't dive across the line to collapse on the track, trying to fend off another runner who was cutting him down - while his fans laud his largely nonexistent kick. You should just *** off and waste someone else's time.

    Blah blah blah. Get a life.

  • Ruxton Towers XC

    Member since 11/19/2022.

    5,292 posts. Last post 10 months ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 3:52pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    You are surely one of the most stupid posters on this site. You obviously never saw this race. Snell was boxed in into the home straight, a gap opened and he surged through the field and past Moens, who was leading, to win by a metre. It was a convincing victory. He didn't dive across the line to collapse on the track, trying to fend off another runner who was cutting him down - while his fans laud his largely nonexistent kick. You should just *** off and waste someone else's time.

    You could make your point in a way that people would still disagree with but at least they'd hear you out and think about your opinion. Your style is not good at getting anyone to change their minds.

    You could have written it this way:

    Is anyone else a little surprised how hard Jakob had to work to get that win? He has really not been pushed by Tim in a few years, and suddenly Tim was kicking him down. One meter more and he would have lost. Jakob was on the brink of taking three losses in a row. He's obviously still really fast but it looks like the rest of the field is starting to catch up. He really wanted it in Oslo and it should not have been that hard for him."
  • registered

    Clifford Diffley

    Member since 10/28/2008.

    392 posts. Last post 8 months ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 3:55pm EDT
    re: Ruxton Towers XC

    Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

    In speed skating it is the blade of the skate.

    Swimming it is the hand on the wall, nothing else.

    In football it is any part of the ball (even just the tip).

    In running it is the chest. That is why people throw their chest forward in sprints (lean at the line!).

    It is just the rule of our sport. It has to do with impossibility of judging the "most hind part of the runner's body crossing the line" since that would be obscured from the camera (or the judges) by the bodies of the other runners in close races. The first part of the runner (besides the hands), is the easiest thing to see. It literally hits the tape first.

    nice! in biking it is the front wheel, in CC skiing, the tip of the ski (hence, sprinting "throws" in both cases)

  • y'all the ones who are desperate

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 3:56pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    y\'all the ones who are desperate wrote:

    I was convinced. The thing convinced me was seeing the 1 next to his name.

    People will seriously knock the guy for anything just bc they don't like him. Last week it was that he didn't kick and looked like he didn't care about the win. Now it's that he was too desperate at the finish. The mental gymnastics are wild.

    You are apparently not one of those who says Jakob always wants to win dominantly. By the skin of his teeth doesn't quite fit that description.

    I'm sure every runner wants to win dominantly, you dunce. Doesn't mean it's always going to happen - Even for the best in the field.

    And at the end of the day a win is a win, whether by 10 seconds or 0.01. The ability to put your body on the line for the win is very convincing to me. It shows a level of dedication that's impressive.

  • the armlegger

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 4:06pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    tyty wrote:

    Who said anything about authority? He won.

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

    Nobody lauds him as the GOAT. It's his goal to become the GOAT distance runner. He has a chance but it's a long way to go.

    Now change it another time.

  • tyty

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 4:16pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    tyty wrote:

    Like this runner won in desperation? Are you going to say it was also not particularly convincing for you, a fan who lauds him as the 800m GOAT?

    Image:encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tb...

    You are surely one of the most stupid posters on this site. You obviously never saw this race. Snell was boxed in into the home straight, a gap opened and he surged through the field and past Moens, who was leading, to win by a metre. It was a convincing victory. He didn't dive across the line to collapse on the track, trying to fend off another runner who was cutting him down - while his fans laud his largely nonexistent kick. You should just *** off and waste someone else's time.

    I enjoy wasting your time with facts. You get so nervous. Love the insults too. Keep them coming.

  • registered

    LarsL11

    Member since 05/02/2022.

    2,333 posts. Last post 59 minutes ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 4:36pm EDT
    re: y'all the ones who are desperate

    y\'all the ones who are desperate wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I said it. It was clearly desperation. Not particularly convincing for a runner that his fans laud as the GOAT.

    I was convinced. The thing convinced me was seeing the 1 next to his name.

    People will seriously knock the guy for anything just bc they don't like him. Last week it was that he didn't kick and looked like he didn't care about the win. Now it's that he was too desperate at the finish. The mental gymnastics are wild.

    Its really unhinged. Imagine wanting to win! (Also no one calls him the GOAT).

  • registered

    LarsL11

    Member since 05/02/2022.

    2,333 posts. Last post 59 minutes ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 4:39pm EDT
    re: Ruxton Towers XC

    Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    You are surely one of the most stupid posters on this site. You obviously never saw this race. Snell was boxed in into the home straight, a gap opened and he surged through the field and past Moens, who was leading, to win by a metre. It was a convincing victory. He didn't dive across the line to collapse on the track, trying to fend off another runner who was cutting him down - while his fans laud his largely nonexistent kick. You should just *** off and waste someone else's time.

    You could make your point in a way that people would still disagree with but at least they'd hear you out and think about your opinion. Your style is not good at getting anyone to change their minds.

    You could have written it this way:

    Is anyone else a little surprised how hard Jakob had to work to get that win? He has really not been pushed by Tim in a few years, and suddenly Tim was kicking him down. One meter more and he would have lost. Jakob was on the brink of taking three losses in a row. He's obviously still really fast but it looks like the rest of the field is starting to catch up. He really wanted it in Oslo and it should not have been that hard for him."

    I first read your version of his post and thought "yeah, that is some good points there". Then I read one sentence of the original and went back to the old "how horrible must your life be to make hating on Jakob Ingebrigtsen no matter what he does your main hobby? What an absolute maniac."

  • registered

    justanothercuriousdude

    Member since 07/08/2023.

    2,061 posts. Last post 5 months ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 5:17pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    You are apparently not one of those who says Jakob always wants to win dominantly. By the skin of his teeth doesn't quite fit that description.

    Jakob is an opportunist when he has to. And he really can laugh about himself. Look how he raced 2023 WC 5000m. -But always fun to watch! (And hate it seems..).

    This post was edited 1 minute after it was posted.

  • cross country ski race

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 5:31pm EDT
    re: Clifford Diffley

    Clifford Diffley wrote:

    nice! in biking it is the front wheel, in CC skiing, the tip of the ski (hence, sprinting "throws" in both cases)

    No, in cross country skiing, it's the front of the boot, not the ski.

  • registered

    justanothercuriousdude

    Member since 07/08/2023.

    2,061 posts. Last post 5 months ago.
    2 years ago 05/31/2024 5:36pm EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    You are surely one of the most stupid posters on this site. You obviously never saw this race. Snell was boxed in into the home straight, a gap opened and he surged through the field and past Moens, who was leading, to win by a metre. It was a convincing victory. He didn't dive across the line to collapse on the track, trying to fend off another runner who was cutting him down - while his fans laud his largely nonexistent kick. You should just *** off and waste someone else's time.

    Well Jakob faded, and Timothy nearly won with a convincing kick. So was this dive disrespectful of Tim -I’don’t know. It was only a Diamond league, and I think the former champ all in all was pleased with his race and progress. And maybe even he thought Jakob’s childish dive was fun and startling. And maybe an earned win after all the front running…

  • Therapy

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 05/31/2024 5:47pm EDT
    re: LarsL11

    LarsL11 wrote:

    Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

    You could make your point in a way that people would still disagree with but at least they'd hear you out and think about your opinion. Your style is not good at getting anyone to change their minds.

    You could have written it this way:

    I first read your version of his post and thought "yeah, that is some good points there". Then I read one sentence of the original and went back to the old "how horrible must your life be to make hating on Jakob Ingebrigtsen no matter what he does your main hobby? What an absolute maniac."

    This guy is obsessing over Jakob all day everyday, time to get some therapy sessions

1 2 3 6

Jump To A Page

Next Last
What People Are Talking About On LetsRun
No top threads at the moment. Check back soon.
New Forum Moderation Information & Rules Search Troubleshooting

This thread has already been deleted.

Note: We review 100% of reports submitted. Visit our moderation dashboard to view statistics on our moderating activity. If you have a question or concern, email us at letsrun@letsrun.com or call us at our toll-free phone number:

1-844-LETSRUN (1-844-538-7786).

Author
Body
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?
What forum rule may this post have broken?

View our Terms Of Service for a complete description of our forum policies.

Provide context for this post report if relevant.

Reply Replying to

Leave the password field blank to post anonymously.

Post Preview
By posting you acknowledge that you have read and abide by our Terms and Conditions.

Message Board