Colin Sahlman runs 1:45 and Nico Young runs 1:47 in the 800m tonight at the Desert Heat Classic

Peach Pit wrote:

Colin Sahlman - 1:45.63 (52.52/53.12)

Nico Young - 1:47.65 (53.59/54.06)

Seems like very good pacing from both ~.6s positive splits. I can see why Grijalva and Quax were so confident in predicting Colin would make the Olympic team this year. Hocker and Nuguse are 1:46 guys. Kessler has run 1:45.8. Colin has a pretty bad lack of experience, but he is kinda on a tear. If he wins NCAAs and makes the final, I think he makes the team. Crazy to think last year he didn't even make NCAAs. Also crazy to think how weak we were last Olympics. Hocker was WAY better than everyone except Centro, and Centro didn't even make the final. Now if a college kid wants to make the team, they have to beat Nuguse (3:43/3000i world silver), Hocker (3:30/1500i world silver), and Kessler (3:48/road mile world champ/1500i world bronze).

I knew Nico had more in him after his last 800, but it's great to see him get way down into the 1:47s after being at 1:48.00. Put this and 26:52 into and it predicts a 3:48 mile from it. Suspiciously close to the 3:48 altitude conversion from earlier this year. Really makes you think, doesn't it? Also spits out a 12:48 5k and 7:59 2-mile. Hopefully his next race is a 1500 or mile. It'd be legendary if he and Colin both broke the NCAA record in the same race. And 1:47 can't be much slower than what the best 10k guys in the world can run, right?

Link:timescalculator.appspot.com/

I just checked, and since the start of 2022, no one has run a faster 800 and 10k than Nico. Pretty short list though, only like 10 names ahead of Nico in the 10k. Almgren has a 1:45 pb (he has absurd range btw), but Nico outkicked him at the 10. I know Rupp/Farah/Fisher never ran an 800 that fast. I know we're still months away from the trials, but is it crazy to talk about a medal? Grijalva hasn't done the stuff Nico is doing right now.

wejo wrote:

Peach Pit wrote:

Colin Sahlman - 1:45.63 (52.52/53.12)

Nico Young - 1:47.65 (53.59/54.06)

Seems like very good pacing from both ~.6s positive splits. I can see why Grijalva and Quax were so confident in predicting Colin would make the Olympic team this year. Hocker and Nuguse are 1:46 guys. Kessler has run 1:45.8. Colin has a pretty bad lack of experience, but he is kinda on a tear. If he wins NCAAs and makes the final, I think he makes the team. Crazy to think last year he didn't even make NCAAs. Also crazy to think how weak we were last Olympics. Hocker was WAY better than everyone except Centro, and Centro didn't even make the final. Now if a college kid wants to make the team, they have to beat Nuguse (3:43/3000i world silver), Hocker (3:30/1500i world silver), and Kessler (3:48/road mile world champ/1500i world bronze).

I knew Nico had more in him after his last 800, but it's great to see him get way down into the 1:47s after being at 1:48.00. Put this and 26:52 into and it predicts a 3:48 mile from it. Suspiciously close to the 3:48 altitude conversion from earlier this year. Really makes you think, doesn't it? Also spits out a 12:48 5k and 7:59 2-mile. Hopefully his next race is a 1500 or mile. It'd be legendary if he and Colin both broke the NCAA record in the same race. And 1:47 can't be much slower than what the best 10k guys in the world can run, right?

Link:timescalculator.appspot.com/

I just checked, and since the start of 2022, no one has run a faster 800 and 10k than Nico. Pretty short list though, only like 10 names ahead of Nico in the 10k. Almgren has a 1:45 pb (he has absurd range btw), but Nico outkicked him at the 10. I know Rupp/Farah/Fisher never ran an 800 that fast. I know we're still months away from the trials, but is it crazy to talk about a medal? Grijalva hasn't done the stuff Nico is doing right now.

Where did they say they were confident he’d make the team?

I would have thought it was nuts with Nuguse, Hocker and ??? (Kessler) but now he’s definitely a big contender.

rojo wrote:

What? How weak were last Olympics? No. No. No.

Last time, if you wanted to make the Olympics for the 1500 in 2021 you had to beat Hocker - who at 20 and 2 months (4 months younger than Sahlman is right now) got 6th in Tokyo and ran 3:31.

You had to beat the reigning Olympic champion Centro who was so confident in his fitness that he took a crack at the American record in the mile before going to Tokyo and ran 3:49.

And you had to beat a star NCAA runner in Nuguse who was so fit he solo'd the Olympic standard by himself in the prelims of his conference meet. Two years later that same guy would run 3:43 in the mile.

Hocker was not WAY better than Nuguse in 2021. Here is the final 100 from NCAAs. Looks pretty competitive to me:

Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kAcJ0bS4hk

And let's don't act like the 4th guy at the 2021 Trials was some terrible runner. IT was Craig Engels. His 800 pb is 1:44.68 - way faster than what Sahlman's run - and his 1500 pb was 3:33.64 - also faster than what's Sahlman has run. And he ran that 3:33 in 2021.

It was a damn hard team to make in 2021 and will be so in 2024. This year we just have more depth after the top 3.

Hocker, Nuguse, Kessler, Sahlman, 3 UW guys, Engels, Centro, etc.

Peach Pit wrote:

Colin Sahlman - 1:45.63 (52.52/53.12)

Nico Young - 1:47.65 (53.59/54.06)

Seems like very good pacing from both ~.6s positive splits. I can see why Grijalva and Quax were so confident in predicting Colin would make the Olympic team this year. Hocker and Nuguse are 1:46 guys. Kessler has run 1:45.8. Colin has a pretty bad lack of experience, but he is kinda on a tear. If he wins NCAAs and makes the final, I think he makes the team. Crazy to think last year he didn't even make NCAAs. Also crazy to think how weak we were last Olympics. Hocker was WAY better than everyone except Centro, and Centro didn't even make the final. Now if a college kid wants to make the team, they have to beat Nuguse (3:43/3000i world silver), Hocker (3:30/1500i world silver), and Kessler (3:48/road mile world champ/1500i world bronze).

I knew Nico had more in him after his last 800, but it's great to see him get way down into the 1:47s after being at 1:48.00. Put this and 26:52 into and it predicts a 3:48 mile from it. Suspiciously close to the 3:48 altitude conversion from earlier this year. Really makes you think, doesn't it? Also spits out a 12:48 5k and 7:59 2-mile. Hopefully his next race is a 1500 or mile. It'd be legendary if he and Colin both broke the NCAA record in the same race. And 1:47 can't be much slower than what the best 10k guys in the world can run, right?

Link:timescalculator.appspot.com/

I just checked, and since the start of 2022, no one has run a faster 800 and 10k than Nico. Pretty short list though, only like 10 names ahead of Nico in the 10k. Almgren has a 1:45 pb (he has absurd range btw), but Nico outkicked him at the 10. I know Rupp/Farah/Fisher never ran an 800 that fast. I know we're still months away from the trials, but is it crazy to talk about a medal? Grijalva hasn't done the stuff Nico is doing right now.