Transwomen Sprinter - AKA A Biological Male - Competing at NCAA D3 Indoor Track Nationals In Women's Division

News story from January 30th 2024:

Transgender runner breaks two women's records for New York college, sparking debate

A transgender collegiate track-and-field athlete set two new records for the Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) in New York Friday.

Sadie Schreiner set the 200-meter record and qualified for the Atlantic Region Championship with a time of 25.27 seconds at the RIT January Friday Meet. The runner also broke the 300-meter record with a 40.78-second finish.

The sophomore placed first in the 4x400-meter relay as well.

“Crazy meet last weekend!” Schreiner posted on Instagram. “Running till my legs give out.”

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Transgender runner breaks two women's records for New York college, sparking debate

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The runner broke records in the 200 meter and 400 meter races for the Rochester Institute of Technology.

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IIRC, when news of Schreiner setting these records was originally posted here , the regular small but dedicated crew of LRC posters who always come out to cape for blokes competing in women's sports responded with the usual lame lines. They dismissed Schreiner's wins as unimportant, said Schreiner belongs in women's sports coz of how Schreiners "identifies" and called everyone who objects bigots, transphobes, haters, right-wingers and nitwits.

1. Since she is eligible under the current NCAA rule, she should be on hormone replacement therapy for at least one year.

2. Her biological advantage has been reduced, but not "minimized" since she did not start HRT until after puberty.

3. World Athletics, World Aquatics, and other global sports organization all agree it is impossible for trans athletes to "minimize" the advantage of testosterone unless they start medical transition before stage 2 of puberty. Since NCAA has decided to let each sport use the policy of sports governing body, the current WA policy will be the new NCAA track & field policy starting the next season.

4. This RIT athlete will be ineligible to compete in the next season.

5. There is no agreement among all "interested parties" on this issue. Many parties demand total and complete ban of all trans athletes from girls / women's competition. Whether they are acting in "good faith" or not is a matter of opinion.

Those who oppose her participation are not necessarily wrong, but I advocate for her participation because of how hateful those who oppose her participation tend to be, and that includes you, oh verbose and self-righteous and always playing the victim RunRagged.

Pretty hilarious honestly. What a boss. Maybe he can win D3 Nats!

I think we would all welcome such an outcome so that the hateful bigots could have their moment of supreme outrage, as they pretend to care so much about justice when more important cases of injustice mean nothing to them.

Their doctor does not view them as females. She will need a colonoscopy to check her prostate at 40 and regular checking of her testes for testicular cancer.

Will be banned from commenting next year. Adios MFer

I, as a female athlete, used to have blind "sympathy" for these men that wanted to compete in the female category. Then, I realized that when a man competes in the female category, he (and the officials/governing bodies/schools that enable this behavior) demands that all female competitors now function to validate his belief about himself. Female competitors are no longer empowered through sex-segregated sport, because 1) the sex segregation no longer exists, and so 2) women are now required to fulfill an emotional function for any man that claims that he needs access to female competition. This is deeply misogynistic; women deserve to compete for the sake of competition instead of for the sake of the emotional experience of any man that claims that he needs the experience of female competition. Ironically (but unsurprisingly), it's some of the most male-aligned behavior that I can think of -- to declare that it is all women's responsibility to validate you.

Not every decent person. I would say every person who lacks boundaries and maybe a few who are deliberately malicious.

Why the generalization?

There are XX males and XY females.

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Good point!

This is the last meet where this nonsense will happen. Transgenders are banned from college track next year, unless they transitioned at 8 and have their penis removed.

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Thank You!

Hear, hear.

I don’t see that there is really any room for nuance. He is a man and is competing as a woman. Clearly this threatens women sport, especially as it seems to be happening a lot.

That said, I do feel sorry for this fellow. I’m sorry for him that he lives in a culture that encourages him onward in this behavior, rather than helping him to solve it.

Oh please…you are admitting that you are inferior. Is this not misogynistic also? You essentially concede that due to your inferiority you cannot compete with someone who thinks they should be a female. Most of us men have no interest in competing with women, where would be the challenge?

JK Rowling made this post today that sums up the position of me and many other grownups who've given a lot of thought to the issues at hand, are very well informed, and have been active supporters of true diversity, inclusion and acceptance for all a lot longer than Sadie Schreiner, Lia Thomas, CeCe Telfer and the majority of today's most extreme trans activists have been alive:

I believe everyone should be free to express themselves however they wish, dress however they please, call themselves whatever they want, sleep with any consenting adult who wishes to sleep with them, and that trans-identified people should have the same protections regarding employment, housing, freedom of speech and personal safety every other citizen is entitled to.

But this isn’t nearly enough for the dominant strain of trans activism, which asserts that unless freedom of speech is removed from dissenters, unless trans-identified men are permitted to strip away women’s rights - with particular reference to single sex sports and spaces like rape crisis centres, prison cells, hospital wards, changing rooms and public bathrooms - until we all bow down to their neo-religion, accept their pseudo-scientific claims, embrace their circular reasoning, and agree with them when they claim that trans people (particularly the big strong strapping aggressive male ones) are more oppressed, more at risk, and more vulnerable than any other group in society.

This is nonsense. 99.9% of the world knows it's nonsense. The emperor is naked. He might be wearing lipstick, but his balls are swinging in plain sight.

This part says all you need to know. It's not enough for them simply not to compete in athletics, you need to ensure that they aren't even allowed to live the lives they want.

Here too. Again, for you, it's not about fairness, at least not in sum. It's about your hatred and refusal to let them live how they want. You don't accept it; you feel as if they're forcing their beliefs on you whereas in reality they just want to be left alone and you can't allow that, you need to force your beliefs onto them.

At least you're open about it, I guess.

Why would it be misogynistic to recognize the very real performance gap between men and women? I love running because I have the framework of female running to compete within. To me, suggesting that women are "inferior" because their records are slower than men's is like telling a male distance runner that he is inferior because horses can run faster than him in horse races. Male performance has nothing to do with me, in the same way that male runners dont seem particularly affected by the existence of horses that can beat their PRs. What would ACTUALLY be misogynistic is to suggest that women's competition doesn't really matter because men are faster than women. However, that seems to be the implication of allowing certain men to participate in female competition -- that it doesn't really matter, and so women should give up their right to sex-segregated competion.