Like I said, Blanks was much slower in HS. Many guys were. This guy may be just another okay runner.
The poster you’re responding to is talking about Ky Robinson and specified Stanford’s recruiting find of the decade. Blanks has nothing to do with that. Robinson was a 3:52/8:19 1500/3k guy before running for Stanford. Good, but no reason to think he’d become what he is now.
Remember how Cragg’s 7:38 went unthreatened for like 20 years and now suddenly there are probably 10 guys in the NCAA right now who can run just as fast or faster? Wonder what changed…. Cant be the tracks, they’ve been the same for a long time…
Remember how Cragg’s 7:38 went unthreatened for like 20 years and now suddenly there are probably 10 guys in the NCAA right now who can run just as fast or faster? Wonder what changed…. Cant be the tracks, they’ve been the same for a long time…
Nuguse is the one who broke it, and I'll say it: Nuguse is more talented than Cragg was. Also, Bosley broke Nuguse's record, and he had 4 years of altitude training, and was the top recruit in his class. Ky Robinson crushed the 5k/10k double last year as a junior. Nico Young has been heralded as the next great distance runner literally since I started following the sport.
I think pretty much everyone accepts that the shoes are making athletes faster, but for guys like Las Heras and Quax, I think the altitude + Mike Smith + training with teammates that can run sub-7:40 makes a WAY bigger difference than the shoes. Las Heras had 4 years at Wake Forest where he had super shoes, and he was clearly a very good runner, but nothing close to national class. Less than 1 year later, the shoes haven't changed, but now he's running 7:37.
Shoe tech deniers are always hilariously stupid. They come up with the dumbest excuses instead of just acknowledging that, yeah, it’s weird how we went for 40 sub 4s a year to 100 the year after super shoes were released. Unserious people.
Nuguse is the one who broke it, and I'll say it: Nuguse is more talented than Cragg was. Also, Bosley broke Nuguse's record, and he had 4 years of altitude training, and was the top recruit in his class. Ky Robinson crushed the 5k/10k double last year as a junior. Nico Young has been heralded as the next great distance runner literally since I started following the sport.
I think pretty much everyone accepts that the shoes are making athletes faster, but for guys like Las Heras and Quax, I think the altitude + Mike Smith + training with teammates that can run sub-7:40 makes a WAY bigger difference than the shoes. Las Heras had 4 years at Wake Forest where he had super shoes, and he was clearly a very good runner, but nothing close to national class. Less than 1 year later, the shoes haven't changed, but now he's running 7:37.
He did do a 3:41/28:14 2-day double and finish 26th at NCAAs. Skipping track last year does somewhat distort the picture.
One thing I was thinking is that the NCAA has so many foreign athletes at the top-end from everywhere now. Is it more than ever?
Nuguse is the one who broke it, and I'll say it: Nuguse is more talented than Cragg was. Also, Bosley broke Nuguse's record, and he had 4 years of altitude training, and was the top recruit in his class. Ky Robinson crushed the 5k/10k double last year as a junior. Nico Young has been heralded as the next great distance runner literally since I started following the sport.
I think pretty much everyone accepts that the shoes are making athletes faster, but for guys like Las Heras and Quax, I think the altitude + Mike Smith + training with teammates that can run sub-7:40 makes a WAY bigger difference than the shoes. Las Heras had 4 years at Wake Forest where he had super shoes, and he was clearly a very good runner, but nothing close to national class. Less than 1 year later, the shoes haven't changed, but now he's running 7:37.
He did do a 3:41/28:14 2-day double and finish 26th at NCAAs. Skipping track last year does somewhat distort the picture.
One thing I was thinking is that the NCAA has so many foreign athletes at the top-end from everywhere now. Is it more than ever?
Essayi
Las Heras
Musau
Samuel
Quax
Robinson
Massaoudi
the list goes on and on…
lol
…a little history lesson
1981 NCAA XC results
1-Motshwarateu
2-Musyoki
3-Kaman
4-Scrutton (GB)
5-Fell (GB)
6-Scharsu (US)
7-Nyambui
8-Shahang
9-David Taylor (Irl)
10-Richard Twuei
11-Ray Treacy (Irl)
12- Iwancin (Can)…
Way less foreigners now than in the “good old days”
#2 all time NCAA and #1 on an OT ( oversized track ). Aaron Las Heras running 7:37 was unexpected a bit in my opinion, but he did run 13:16 a few weeks back. Amazing run by him. I know he paced Nico for some of that big workout Nico did prior to running 12:57, so it’ll be exciting to see the progress he makes
Las Heras just came back and won the mile with a 3:58.22
#2 all time NCAA and #1 on an OT ( oversized track ). Aaron Las Heras running 7:37 was unexpected a bit in my opinion, but he did run 13:16 a few weeks back. Amazing run by him. I know he paced Nico for some of that big workout Nico did prior to running 12:57, so it’ll be exciting to see the progress he makes
Las Heras just came back and won the mile with a 3:58.22
Las Heras has looked really good so far this season. that altitude training paying off.
In time, yes . . . duly noted . . . setting prs with every race.
Recruiting find of the decade for Stanford if he keeps it going . . .
I'd say the recruiting find of the decade (For Stanford) hails from Australia. He wasn't a ringer coming out of HS.
Ha ha . . . yes, true . . . not expecting Milo to be doing what Ky's been doing the past couple years.
Worth noting that Milo's 8:57/3200 pr (not 8:55) came during his hs jr year . . . but only a 9:22/3200 early last spring . . . guess he was injured after that . . . so kind of off the radar when Stanford recruited him . . .
Bye the way . . . one of many reasons Ky is so good is because he never gets sick or injured . . . despite being a high mileage guy (95/wk at times) . . . as well as an academic AA . . . spike him on the face in a steeple race, no problem . . . just gets stitched up and keeps on going . . . but admitted he'll not run another steeple again . . . should have no problems easing right in to pro running this summer . . .
Like I said, Blanks was much slower in HS. Many guys were. This guy may be just another okay runner.
The poster you’re responding to is talking about Ky Robinson and specified Stanford’s recruiting find of the decade. Blanks has nothing to do with that. Robinson was a 3:52/8:19 1500/3k guy before running for Stanford. Good, but no reason to think he’d become what he is now.
Correct.
Ky is probably Stanford's all-time diamond-in-the-rough recruit . . . roughly a 4:10 mile/9-flat 2-mile out of Aussie hs . . . now he's blown past all of Stanford's past superstar recruits . . . going back to the Hauser twins from the 1990s through more recent record setters like Chris Derrick, Grant Fisher and buddy Charlie Hicks . . .