Gary Martin 3:54.73

First of all responding to you is stupud on my part

The Martin performance was not a big deal , its not a slam on Gary Martin. Its an hoest evaluation of the mark run.

If you think 1:48.71 for a sub 3:55.00 miler is a big deal? You are wrong.

I think he is much more the 15/3K type than the 800/15 type.

Right and wrong. You are right that a 1:48 is nothing special for a collegian. You are wrong to look at that time in isolation. He ran that 1:48 less than 24 hours after running 3:54. It’s the combo that makes for a “nice weekend” as that other guy wrote. That other guy is right.

Martin has dropped a couple of notches after Hemery.

At least four.

Ethan Strand's dad = Scott Strand

Good genes, plus hard work, wish him the best

Fareed Massoui (I'm probably spelling it wrong...the guy who won the 3K last year) hasn't even run the mile yet. I also imagine:
-Jackson Sharp could run a 3:53-3:54 considering how much his distance game has improved
-Davis Bove at Cal Poly ran a 3:56 3 years ago and he has improved a lot. I see no reason why he can't get sub-3:55
-I think Elliott Cook at Oregon could do 3:52-3:53 considering how versatile he is at 800 and how good of a distance runner he has. If he's been training solidly since December, I see no reason why he can't make it.

The fact that you misspelled the word stupid is hilarious.

Also yeah it’s not even Gary’s PR in the event, but I’d say a 3:54 mile and a 1:48 800 in back to back days is impressive

Currently ranked 16th. On the bubble.

How old is he? How does he compare to Laros and Reynold?

Knew it immediately on the spelling

i see no edit button, never learned it pn here lol

Anyone want to help an old timer?

I am usually okay on this stuff, never bothered on here.

Spencer 3:52.70

With all due respect, Hobbs Kessler is the future. He is still just 20.

To be fair he will be 21 next month

But, in this year no doubt in my mind for all those who thought he should go to college?

he would thump every guy this year from 800-3k

Think about that, we have not had many of those

can surely run 1:45.5 already run 3:48.66

and 7:39 last year at 19

No. Nico and Ky would crush him at 3K.

An absurd proposition

Kessler ran 7:39 last year , when not nearly the runner he is now.

Kessler has done nothing in the 3k this year. Just because he ran a fast mile, that doesn’t automatically mean he’s a better 3k guy than Nico and Ky.

Thanks for the post Vin!

Last year in not a great indoors and no where near as fit as he has become now he got dropped in a 3k at BU into no mans land. Quite frankly i thought he would give in and run like 7:46 from there, he did not and ran a very very good 7:39 right before turning 20.

He is simply much much better now, not just by the times, but you can see it if you are watching.

At 3k those two could not drop him, i dont think and he is simply just a faster closer or would he in my opinion.

Onviously I am biased , all on here know that. So i get the skepticism.