Why did Scott Fauble DNF?

Yes, if you do a 3:07 Marathon.
If you are a lot faster you can do maybe two at most.

happened in berlin...you'd think he'd have figured it out by now?

Joey Whelan who raced at trials yesterday ran the following marathon times in 2023 - 2:16, 2:18, 2:16, 2:16, 2:17, 2:14.

Please refrain from posting such silly statements framed as absolute truths on this running website when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Perhaps if he had run a few less he could have been closer to Top 3 yesterday.

What happened to Andrew Colley?

Two at most is largely predicated on weather as much as recovery. People tend to favor one spring one fall marathon. You easily could recover rebuild and taper for a third mid-summer, but unless you’re heading for a championships race who want to race a mid-summer marathon?

My last marathon was an hour slower than my PR but I didn't quit like a beatch. Finish the race you babies.

I think it just depends on physiology. Some guys like CJ or McDonald etc seem to be fine racing that kind of volume.

Maybe Scott is attempting to cement his running resume as one of the most uninspiring professional marathoners to ever have competed at a high level.

It's one thing to drag yourself through a marathon that's gone bad for you if you're not making your living from running. But if you're a professional runner and it's obvious that this particular race is not getting you anything you wanted from it, i.e., a qualifying place or a payday, it may be wiser to quit and be recovered for your next money race sooner than you'd be if you death marched your way to finishing. Or pro or not, you may place a lot of value on finishing races no matter how badly they go.

I disagree. Sure, some people’s physiology like Cj’s, or Joey’s, allows them to handle it and run a larger volume and do so at a fairly high level. But if they want to maximize their potential to 100% of what they can achieve in a race, not 95%, then they need to pick and select their battles less frequently. god bless them for being able to do what they do, and if that is what makes them happy more power to them. But it’s just science, if they want to fully maximize and be able to express their full potential, then they have to race less marathons.

I enjoyed watching Fauble when he was with NAZ. He raced more and was active on social. From the Letsrun interview it sounds like he'll be retiring soon.

Not sure if his wife lives in Flag or elsewhere, but I think it'd be fun to watch him complete one more cycle with a return to Flagstaff and maybe even NAZ. However, NAZ had a disastrous outing yesterday (perhaps a combination of its current roster and coaching), and obviously it's doubtful Fauble would be welcomed back to that program after the way he left.

I also hope NAZ gets some more inspiring athletes. I have no interest in keeping tabs on that program right now.

Yuki Kawauchi as well...

Same logic from above applied to Yuki. Incredible the volume he can handle, and the level he can do it at. But I’m sure even he would admit that he almost certainly would perform better at a given marathon if he raced less. He most likely has his reasons for the approach he takes, but he knows the opportunity cost of that approach and has accepted that.

Mile 18? Really? Which race were you watching in person yesterday? Because it wasn't the trials.

It was probably due to an ill-advised attempt to raise his ferritin levels at the last moment:

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This also explains why he vomited. Then dropped out.

I think that this observation, while correct in a vacuum, doesn’t give enough weight to all of the uncontrollable variables of marathoning.

The weather, the competition, your immediate health, your injury situation, travel and nutrition working, menstruation, all these things have to align and there is just a measure of luck. Within limits, the more chances you have, the better your chances are of the stars aligning.

Except he dropped out at 10, not 18.

Joe Bashard is a creepy dude