That was a really solid field he just took down, he’s definitely in the conversation for a title this NCAA’s
The reason that I voted your post down was that there are multiple guys capable of low 3:50s already, and a 55.80 close (28/27) usually doesn't do it. He is not at the level yet of, say, Essayi, Waskom, Messaoudi, Nico Young (likely running 3k/5k at nationals), Spencer, and others. Title contention is in his future, definitely, just not in his present.
Think about that. We spend a week arguing about conversions. Then we get the beginnings of a huge validation of those conversions and you don't want to talk about them. This is the most rational time to talk about them, the time to settle the dispute for good. The conversions look like they are actually very good. This is just two athletes, so we need to see more athletes run, but it is a really good start. As for this race, it is what it is, a really good time and a very solid drop for Sahlman. That doesn't mean it is not the best time of all to look back at the conversions.
Good for Sahlman, I always like seeing the guys with a lot of hype/pressure come good on their potential.
Keep an eye on Theo Quax in the 5k tonight too out of the unseeded section. He was just 0.1 behind Sahlman in that mile up at Flag, clearly extremely fit as well.
Think about that. We spend a week arguing about conversions. Then we get the beginnings of a huge validation of those conversions and you don't want to talk about them. This is the most rational time to talk about them, the time to settle the dispute for good. The conversions look like they are actually very good. This is just two athletes, so we need to see more athletes run, but it is a really good start. As for this race, it is what it is, a really good time and a very solid drop for Sahlman. That doesn't mean it is not the best time of all to look back at the conversions.
A converted time will not appear on any list, or qualify for a meet. It’s a meaningless debate. Nico’s fitness will be defined today when he runs his 5000m. I’m thinking it’s going to be impressive.
That was a really solid field he just took down, he’s definitely in the conversation for a title this NCAA’s
The reason that I voted your post down was that there are multiple guys capable of low 3:50s already, and a 55.80 close (28/27) usually doesn't do it. He is not at the level yet of, say, Essayi, Waskom, Messaoudi, Nico Young (likely running 3k/5k at nationals), Spencer, and others. Title contention is in his future, definitely, just not in his present.
I agree with above that he is not “on the level” of Waskom, Messaoudi, Spencer, Houser, Green bc he has not won at NCAAs, but he is someone that seems to be moving towards that category. He probably has the fastest 800 out of any of the guys you mentioned, but hasn’t yet shown the strength at 3k and above in college. Charles Philbert Thiboutot in second ran 3:32 last summer and Craig are both good scalps tho
Think about that. We spend a week arguing about conversions. Then we get the beginnings of a huge validation of those conversions and you don't want to talk about them. This is the most rational time to talk about them, the time to settle the dispute for good. The conversions look like they are actually very good. This is just two athletes, so we need to see more athletes run, but it is a really good start. As for this race, it is what it is, a really good time and a very solid drop for Sahlman. That doesn't mean it is not the best time of all to look back at the conversions.
A converted time will not appear on any list, or qualify for a meet. It’s a meaningless debate. Nico’s fitness will be defined today when he runs his 5000m. I’m thinking it’s going to be impressive.
A converted time will appear of the NCAA qualifying list and will qualify for indoor nationals.
Going into today the top 5 qualifiers all have converted times.
Think about that. We spend a week arguing about conversions. Then we get the beginnings of a huge validation of those conversions and you don't want to talk about them. This is the most rational time to talk about them, the time to settle the dispute for good. The conversions look like they are actually very good. This is just two athletes, so we need to see more athletes run, but it is a really good start. As for this race, it is what it is, a really good time and a very solid drop for Sahlman. That doesn't mean it is not the best time of all to look back at the conversions.
For me, too many unknowns. Was the 4:03 a bad day? Was today a good day, or a better day? Was he more rested today? Probably only Colin and Mike Smith know.
The early results are pretty darn promising for NAU and the validity of the NCAA's altitude conversions, even for athletes living at altitude. Sahlman dropped 10.04 seconds from NAU last week, winning, and closed in 28/27 (55.80). Kang Nyoak ran 3:57.31 in the 2nd heat, dropping 9.57 seconds from 4:06.88 last week. He had a really strong end to his xc season, probably should have been chosen for nationals, and he has improved immensely on the track so far. Maybe Nico is ready to run 3:48-9.
Incidentally, the Exeter high school, Byron Grievious, ran 4:08.10.
Results PlaceAthleteTimeHeat1 1 1 Colin Sahlman Northern Arizona 3:53.17 12 (3rd, second heat) Kang Nyoak Northern Arizona 3:57.31
NAU Lumberjack Team Challenge 1/19
Event 12 Men 1 Mile Run Name Yr School Finals Finals 1 Nico Young JR Northern Arizona 3:57.33 2 Colin Sahlman SO Northern Arizona 4:03.21 3 Theo Quax SR Northern Arizona 4:03.33 4 Kang Nyoak JR Northern Arizona 4:06.88 5 Aaron Las Heras SR Northern Arizona 4:10.04 6 Travis Feeny JR Southern Utah 4:12.04 7 Erik Le Roux SO Northern Arizona 4:12.20 8 Santiago Gaitan JR Southern Utah 4:15.09 9 Riley Human SR Northern Arizona 4:15.79 10 Zack Munson FR Northern Arizona 4:16.85 11 Aidan Puffer SO Northern Arizona 4:18.66
Anyone know what's going on with Aiden Puffer? He was quite the child prodigy.
A converted time will not appear on any list, or qualify for a meet. It’s a meaningless debate. Nico’s fitness will be defined today when he runs his 5000m. I’m thinking it’s going to be impressive.
A converted time will appear of the NCAA qualifying list and will qualify for indoor nationals.
Going into today the top 5 qualifiers all have converted times.
I didn’t know that and it’s pretty crazy. The conversions are imaginary and it’s not like schools at altitude are prevented from traveling to meets at sea level.
I didn’t know that and it’s pretty crazy. The conversions are imaginary and it’s not like schools at altitude are prevented from traveling to meets at sea level.
It's not just altitude conversions. There are also conversions from flat tracks that can qualify for nationals.
Holy crap we are going to see fireworks tonight from Nico, aren't we?
Fantastic race from Sahlman, winning with a 55s last lap. 3s PR I think, and he can clearly go faster. He's definitely in the conversation for a title this season, and with his 400 PR from a few weeks ago, he might be looking to score points in the 800 too. Is Aaron running this meet? He just ran a 400 PR too, and was already a 1:48 guy at 16 years old. I wonder if Mike Smith wants him scoring this year. Nico and Drew could pick up well over 20 points in the 3k/5k, and the team could score in the DMR. Colin in the 800/mile could get more too. I don't know if a title is realistic with 4 mid-d/d guys, but I think Olli Hoare and Morgan McDonald podiumed with just them and maybe a thrower in like 2019.
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