Why are you so obsessed with NAU? Are you an alumni?
I’m pretty sure I recognize this dudes name because a while ago he was advertising the book he wrote on NAU’s rise to dominance, since he was their top runner at the time (I think he came 2nd at NCAA XC?).
You’re literally asking the guy who wrote the book about NAU running why he talks about NAU running. That’s like asking Mike Smith why he’s so obsessed with the training that NAU is doing.
I’m pretty sure I recognize this dudes name because a while ago he was advertising the book he wrote on NAU’s rise to dominance, since he was their top runner at the time (I think he came 2nd at NCAA XC?).
You’re literally asking the guy who wrote the book about NAU running why he talks about NAU running. That’s like asking Mike Smith why he’s so obsessed with the training that NAU is doing.
Isn’t that Matt Baxter?
Comment earlier about the recruits not being at the top, nationally. Smith also has a history of taking runners that might not be at the top and coaching them up so that they are among the top in the NCAA. The altitude can also do great things for runners.
Smith would rather take a blue collar runner with a good attitude and that is willing to work hard instead of a top runner that is a diva.
Most of those statements are true. The school is also the worst of all of the schools qualifying for nationals. It is something that kids should be aware of before committing becuase 95% of the kids who go there to become a professional runner end up with a degree from NAU in exercise science living at home working at the local YMCA.
I’m pretty sure I recognize this dudes name because a while ago he was advertising the book he wrote on NAU’s rise to dominance, since he was their top runner at the time (I think he came 2nd at NCAA XC?).
You’re literally asking the guy who wrote the book about NAU running why he talks about NAU running. That’s like asking Mike Smith why he’s so obsessed with the training that NAU is doing.
The altitude can also do great things for runners.
Most of those statements are true. The school is also the worst of all of the schools qualifying for nationals. It is something that kids should be aware of before committing becuase 95% of the kids who go there to become a professional runner end up with a degree from NAU in exercise science living at home working at the local YMCA.
You're stating a narrative that is somewhat trite and tired. There are more than likely a lot of NAU grads that are doing a lot better in life than you are.
The fact of the matter is that students can get a good education at NAU and be productive and contributing members of society. What's important is attending a school in which the student-athlete is comfortable at.
I am an alumni of the U of Chicago. The U of Chicago is one of the most difficult schools in the world to gain admittance to. That is an extreme example but what good does it do anyone to attend a school in they will have a miserable existence?
Students should just find a school that works for them whether it be a top-level research university, a junior college, or a trade school. There are too many "academic elites" that under the false belief that a student's education is somehow subpar unless they're at a top school.
Most of those statements are true. The school is also the worst of all of the schools qualifying for nationals. It is something that kids should be aware of before committing becuase 95% of the kids who go there to become a professional runner end up with a degree from NAU in exercise science living at home working at the local YMCA.
Wait.... In the real world a prestigious degree brings more value than your 5K PR?
Most of those statements are true. The school is also the worst of all of the schools qualifying for nationals. It is something that kids should be aware of before committing becuase 95% of the kids who go there to become a professional runner end up with a degree from NAU in exercise science living at home working at the local YMCA.
Why are you so obsessed with NAU? Are you an alumni?
I’m pretty sure I recognize this dudes name because a while ago he was advertising the book he wrote on NAU’s rise to dominance, since he was their top runner at the time (I think he came 2nd at NCAA XC?).
You’re literally asking the guy who wrote the book about NAU running why he talks about NAU running. That’s like asking Mike Smith why he’s so obsessed with the training that NAU is doing.
No, this guy is not Matt Baxter, and he never even said he was on the team at NAU.
Matt Baxter has his own registered name, as evidenced by the exact thread you mentioned:
For the past two years Ron Mann (Hall of Fame coach and coach of the NAU program from 1980-2004) and I (Matt Baxter - NAU athlete from 2016-2018) have teamed up to put together the story of this incredible program. I was fort...
Every 17 year old boy who ran 9:20 last spring wants to attend NAU without any idea auot the academics. Parents and guidance counselors should provide information to kids so that they can make informed decisions. Your opinion that it is trite and tired does a huge disservice to kids. Many posters recommend that kids should attend the best academic school that they can get admitted to. That is the opposite side of the discussion. I want every family to have all fom the facts when making a decsision. I live in Wisconsin. Half of the men's roster are guys from Wisconsin. I was shocked when talking to another Dad at our cross country banquet last month who is a very smart man and has a son who ran 9:30 last spring. He and his son assumed that NAU was on par with Wisconsin academically and athletically merely due to being D1 and becuase it is so good at distance running. They follow other sports and hadn't realy thought about academics.
Most of those statements are true. The school is also the worst of all of the schools qualifying for nationals. It is something that kids should be aware of before committing becuase 95% of the kids who go there to become a professional runner end up with a degree from NAU in exercise science living at home working at the local YMCA.
You're stating a narrative that is somewhat trite and tired. There are more than likely a lot of NAU grads that are doing a lot better in life than you are.
The fact of the matter is that students can get a good education at NAU and be productive and contributing members of society. What's important is attending a school in which the student-athlete is comfortable at.
I am an alumni of the U of Chicago. The U of Chicago is one of the most difficult schools in the world to gain admittance to. That is an extreme example but what good does it do anyone to attend a school in they will have a miserable existence?
Students should just find a school that works for them whether it be a top-level research university, a junior college, or a trade school. There are too many "academic elites" that under the false belief that a student's education is somehow subpar unless they're at a top school.
That's where you lost the majority of us. Yes, you can go to NAU and get by on your education but it is not really exceptional in any area. The job market is not what it once was, you need every advantage. Seeing NAU on a resume is like seeing Grand Canyon University
This is what I have thought for years on these boards. There are alums of every "bad" college this message board complains about who are more successful than you. I sometimes wonder if it's kids writing this stuff who haven't actually had a job. There are so many factors that go into post-collegiate success and I would say that being happy and comfortable at the school you select is pretty damn important.
Every 17 year old boy who ran 9:20 last spring wants to attend NAU without any idea auot the academics. Parents and guidance counselors should provide information to kids so that they can make informed decisions. Your opinion that it is trite and tired does a huge disservice to kids. Many posters recommend that kids should attend the best academic school that they can get admitted to. That is the opposite side of the discussion. I want every family to have all fom the facts when making a decsision. I live in Wisconsin. Half of the men's roster are guys from Wisconsin. I was shocked when talking to another Dad at our cross country banquet last month who is a very smart man and has a son who ran 9:30 last spring. He and his son assumed that NAU was on par with Wisconsin academically and athletically merely due to being D1 and becuase it is so good at distance running. They follow other sports and hadn't realy thought about academics.
You can look up the data to see what the salaries are of graduates of any college. There are vast differences. Your last statement is valid in that students should feel comfortable at their school. That is why you should want them to have as much information about colleges as possible before making a decision.
Why are you so obsessed with NAU? Are you an alumni?
I’m pretty sure I recognize this dudes name because a while ago he was advertising the book he wrote on NAU’s rise to dominance, since he was their top runner at the time (I think he came 2nd at NCAA XC?).
You’re literally asking the guy who wrote the book about NAU running why he talks about NAU running. That’s like asking Mike Smith why he’s so obsessed with the training that NAU is doing.
I'm not Matt Baxter, but thanks for the compliment.
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