THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
I mean I certainly don't think it was. By phrasing as "don't know" I didn't mean there was a strong possibility it was. Just meant that the OP is wrong to accept her explanation that as you note was debunked as highly implausible. Highly implausible doesn't mean 100% didn't happen, but it means certainly nobody should have a thread started where they recite it as fact.
Sorry, good points, read and understood.
Obviously the burrito explanation is made up; she had to come up with something to explain it and if she truly didn't know how it got into her system then her best chance was to use an excuse that had the highest probability of getting her off. It ultimately failed, but that was her best shot.
It is not beyond reasonable doubt that Shelby intentionally cheated. Was it in her body? Yes. But we do not know her intent, and frankly no one does besides her and maybe a few others. Love all the LetsRun posters claiming they know all the facts when they know nothing but what they read on LetsRun.
The Shelby stans are probably loving that she is featured in a film coming out next year:
6/10, tired narrative but got a lot of people to bite
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Shelby would've gotten 3 years if she'd admitted fault like this ultrarunner did. So it would be 3 years. We also don't know if it was ingested via the burrito that was simply a long shot theory proposed after they couldn't find anything more plausible. Should the athlete here have gotten more than a year? Probably. But I don't think that means Shelby should've gotten fewer than 3 years. Look at the many athletes banned for nandrolone, and will see how many (if any) outside of Shelby have gotten your sympathy. Or do you regard them as dopers, and their bans good for the sport as people consistent on their positions do.
Shelby has also since said this about the burrito:
I mean, that’s the only thing that we really have as an explanation. I hope at some point, maybe some more information pops up, and maybe it’s something else entirely. I don’t know. But it would be great to have an answer at some point.”
It still makes me angry that when her team held that press conference they presented it like it was a legal "slam dunk" and some massive miscarriage of justice that the CAS didn't accept her burrito explanation only for her 14months later to be talking about her uncertainty as to where it came from. You absolutely would not think that's what she thought from watching Jerry, Shalane, and Paul Greene at that press conference.
Remember folks…. Only dopes use dope.
And Kenyans. Holy smokes… Kenyans use LOTS of dope!
Just wondering,what does @ Coevett think?oh wait a minute, this thread doesn't involve the Kenyans so he isn't interested plus a Brit is mentioned so let's all hush and shush.
Cheetas gonna cheat wrote:
Obviously the burrito explanation is made up; she had to come up with something to explain it and if she truly didn't know how it got into her system then her best chance was to use an excuse that had the highest probability of getting her off. It ultimately failed, but that was her best shot.
It is not beyond reasonable doubt that Shelby intentionally cheated. Was it in her body? Yes. But we do not know her intent, and frankly no one does besides her and maybe a few others. Love all the LetsRun posters claiming they know all the facts when they know nothing but what they read on LetsRun.
Come on. Reasonable doubt? We know it wasn't in the burrito; the doper herself admitted the supplements are even less likely, and nandrolone isn't just in your orange juice or bread or fruitcake.
What are you suggesting? Is it reasonable to assume that some mysterious Mister X sabotaged her (she wasn't even traveling at the time), or she had a one night stand with a doped up bodybuilder that she forgot about?
The only reasonable explanation is that she doped intentionally. Which is of course also why she was banned for the full four years for intentional doping.
The only real questions are whether it was her stand-alone steroid or whether her testosterone was contaminated with it, who orchestrated it and who else was in on it.
Unfortunately with all this propaganda and deflection, no one tries to find the answers above. Even our local investigative journalists here on letsrun rather hire an independent expert to openly ridicule about the burrito joke once more than a PI to follow up on the real questions.
If car access was available, was it really an ultra?
I say dumb things wrote:
If car access was available, was it really an ultra?
^ this.
Ultra runners shouldn't get support of any kind. There should be nobody there. You are proving you can run 100 miles through the rugged wilderness, you against nature.
You have to be legitimately special needs to think shelby tested positive from just a burrito. Use your brain next time before you post
You are delusional if you think that a performance enhancing drug would give you more of an advantage than a performance enhancing car. Even on PEDs a human could never be as fast as a motor vehicle.
Kenyan blood sample: 60% EPO, 40% blood = 100% shame :(
life's not fair wrote:
Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL; the levels of nandralone were too high to be incidental
Sounds like some people aren’t going to be happy until Shelby and Danny Masterson end up together. I might be commingling a couple of topics that have long run their course.
Cheating during an ultra marathon is like cheating on your 4th grade spelling test.
This lady, of course, has one of them crazy women 'diseases' too:
'Relative energy deficiency in sport'
Roflmao
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
Shelby thinks she's innocent because most of the elites don't get popped for the PEDs they take. She feels that she was a victim because she knows she should have gotten away with cheating like most elites. That's a problem.
Shelby was never an elite runner. Her progression makes her designer drug usage even more obvious (I was the one that cut it with DECA).
She went from a 4:43 mile (4:22) in high school to a 4:09 1500 in college. It then took her the 4-5 more years to drop to 3:54 (15 seconds). This doesn't even account for her absurb improvements in the 5k. However, she's clearly a hyper-responder to PEDs.
A year ban is not enough for car girl. And for the amount of people Shelby defrauded and the amount of lying she has done, she should be banned for life.
How Dumb Are You? wrote:
You have to be legitimately special needs to think shelby tested positive from just a burrito. Use your brain next time before you post
Lololol. Rekrunner will soon come over here from his other seven doping threads and correct you.
Then you'll be literally sorry!