Maher is anti-establishment...kind of. He's not conservative and he doesn't fit neatly into a liberal bucket either. What he is though is absolutely full of himself. He should have stuck with good standup, which is what he delivered in the 80s. He's nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. He's a prick is really what he is.
I was a sociology major. I went on to get a master’s degree and a doctorate. I now make $150k a year.
Cool story bro. I got a BS in engineering from a state school and paid an average of $17k a year including room and board. I was making $200k a year less than a decade out of college. How much debt you take on for that crap pile of a degree.
Unfortunately, yes. Conservatives believe that colleges brainwash students into becoming liberals even though there are TONS of VERY CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN colleges in this country, and every large university in a red state has as many conservatives as liberals.
The fact is that the more educated you are, the more likely it is that you will be a liberal, so, of course today's crop of conservatives doesn't like colleges.
I was a sociology major. I went on to get a master’s degree and a doctorate. I now make $150k a year.
Cool story bro. I got a BS in engineering from a state school and paid an average of $17k a year including room and board. I was making $200k a year less than a decade out of college. How much debt you take on for that crap pile of a degree.
It's silly to rip on people for the degree they got. I know a guy who ONLY has a BS in Art History, and he made so much money that he retired at age 50. I know a woman with a degree in Women's Studies (since it was mentioned), and she had a career as a journalist and did just fine. People should get a degree in what interests them. You can make money doing anything.
I didn’t watch the segment, but if the sentiment is that not everyone should go to college, I agree. People who want to learn a trade or major in some of the worthless humanities such as cultural studies, fine arts, journalism, foreign languages, etc. shouldn’t go to college. Colleges could offer a class or two in them if people would like to learn, but not offer majors. Spending two years. Concentrating on certain disciplines are a waste.
I don’t understand why it’s always framed as college vs. no college. It’s much more specific then that. If you’re going to be a doctor then you better damn go to college. I don’t want someone performing surgery on me with a public school ged as their credentials. However, if you’re looking to work on trade, which is highly needed, then a four year college degree in women’s studies is a waste of time and money.
When is a degree in women's studies not a waste of time and money?
because basketweaving and women's studies majors still make, on average, more than HS diploma earners. it's not a MD license to print money but it suffices as a "generic" first degree for either masters and phd programs in sequence, or for jobs that merely want a degree.
ah, the paradox here. man went to cornell. just like every pol advocating this went to yale or penn or something. ever considered it's kind of "world needs ditchdiggers too" style condescension? and we do. but they are president or governor or hosting a talk show, saying this.
fwiw story goes he made the money that let him tour doing comedy early on, selling drugs on campus. try doing that on a street corner with no degree and see if you aren't in jail.
I didn’t watch the segment, but if the sentiment is that not everyone should go to college, I agree. People who want to learn a trade or major in some of the worthless humanities such as cultural studies, fine arts, journalism, foreign languages, etc. shouldn’t go to college. Colleges could offer a class or two in them if people would like to learn, but not offer majors. Spending two years. Concentrating on certain disciplines are a waste.
your argument contradicts itself. yes, someone wanting a trade doesn't necessarily need a degree. but, your snideness towards the humanities ignores that if a humanities career is what you want, THAT IS PRECISELY WHERE TO GO. you're then moving the goalposts to say it's worthless because you think the whole place is politicized ergo the education is useless. couple journalism majors i worked with on the college paper are on big city papers. i have a comfortable career with a humanities degree. your exaggerated idea of the politics isn't an accurate depiction of many humanities programs, though perhaps some. but worse, everyone out of my major class did fine. bunch of PhDs, MBAs, JDs, teachers. you're confusing politics with reality.
side point but you're an idiot if you go a humanities first degree THEN JUST STOP. it's a "first degree." the people who get mocked for "fries with that" degrees tend to have done horrible career planning and have gone to third rate state schools. if you go to a decent school, get a grad degree, and pursue a profession, you will do well.
the funny thing about his center-right kissup and obsession with leftist versions of cancelation, is who does he think were the folks out for his neck over 9/11 comments? hint: it wasn't the left. maybe he worries john oliver and the daily show took his audience in recent years so he's embraced the middle, ahem, job security to mirror one's audience's prejudices.
there was a point when he was an original thinker with unique ideas. it's now become a cliche trope fest. and because he's trying to awkwardly bridge to folks i don't think he agrees with politically, the presentation has become strange. weird forced or unintended laughter.
maher gave what, a million, to a democrat PAC? "antiestablishment?" pfffft.
i think folks have gotten horribly naive. do you really believe the sikh nikki haley believes half the stuff she says? do you really believe trump, who a few cycles back gave to hillary, truly hates her? even the "socialist" bernie has made a lot of money. it's show business for ugly people. they have private selves and public positions. they echo what they think you want to hear.
I didn’t watch the segment, but if the sentiment is that not everyone should go to college, I agree. People who want to learn a trade or major in some of the worthless humanities such as cultural studies, fine arts, journalism, foreign languages, etc. shouldn’t go to college. Colleges could offer a class or two in them if people would like to learn, but not offer majors. Spending two years. Concentrating on certain disciplines are a waste.
your argument contradicts itself. yes, someone wanting a trade doesn't necessarily need a degree. but, your snideness towards the humanities ignores that if a humanities career is what you want, THAT IS PRECISELY WHERE TO GO. you're then moving the goalposts to say it's worthless because you think the whole place is politicized ergo the education is useless. couple journalism majors i worked with on the college paper are on big city papers. i have a comfortable career with a humanities degree. your exaggerated idea of the politics isn't an accurate depiction of many humanities programs, though perhaps some. but worse, everyone out of my major class did fine. bunch of PhDs, MBAs, JDs, teachers. you're confusing politics with reality.
side point but you're an idiot if you go a humanities first degree THEN JUST STOP. it's a "first degree." the people who get mocked for "fries with that" degrees tend to have done horrible career planning and have gone to third rate state schools. if you go to a decent school, get a grad degree, and pursue a profession, you will do well.
Nah. You don’t need a four year degree to go into the majority of careers that you can get with a history, fine arts, journalism, etc. it’s just not required. Taking 24-30 hours of history classes really isn’t going to prepare you for most jobs. (I know, I know critical thinking skills and whatnot. lol).
i mean, has no one considered that, say, the flip flop of the GOP about 1/6 reflects the base actually liked it, and adores anything trump does? and so the honest personal reaction becomes the political climbdown. thus whither values.
likewise, it should be in the interests of the GOP primary race to be tearing trump down to the nails. no one will beat trump because they haven't figured out how to triangulate the base vs. normal outsider primary strategy, which is savage rather than kiss up to the frontrunner. standard boxing strategy is when fighting the champ at his place you don't leave it to the judges, you go for the knockout. but it's gonna be dancing around and the odd jab.
but something or other about the party of freethinkers.
i understand it's like a right wing trope to go after whether one needs college anymore, but if you do any hiring, the actual corporate situation is ever more credentials. not less. telling kids with mainstream ambitions to not get a degree is horrible advice. and with AI nipping at their heels to boot you're telling them not to educate themselves. i mean, the way to stay ahead of AI is to learn stuff you can't just google or teach an AI.
there are some fields like CS where one doesn't need a degree, yes, but that's been true in that field for decades.
some people have not considered that maybe when a candidate has a party that is now mostly HS grads, he might say things HS grads wish were true. it's a popular thing for a politician to do because come election day, more HS grads than college grads. is it wise mobility advice? no. but that's confusing a politician in election season with a career advisor. you want to know what the market wants, look up BLS or ask a pro.
Many people get smarter over the years. Unfortunately some of our citizens keep getting more and more radical and refuse change. Cognitive dissonance dominates their thought lives.
For entrepreneurs, no college degree required. Everyone else, good luck getting a truly professional job with just a diploma or GED. Have fun selling cars or doing manual labor all day, kids!
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