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“Spironolactone and canrenone are Specified Substances in the class of Diuretics and Masking Agents and are prohibited at all times under the USADA Protocol for Olympic testing”.
So, the “it was acne cream” defense, is just like Baumann’s “someone musta spiked my toothpaste” defense or Shelby’s burrito. The only diff is that Baumann and Shelby deny it, while Ostrander basically says, “oopsie, my bad!”

Any idea why masking agents are banned?

I only know who she is because of this site, and I’m a woman. For some reason a bunch of gross pervy guys here spend hours of their life on Instagram and YouTube every day, instead of having families or working or out running.

You pick an excerpt from the USADA report but omit their preceding statement: "Ostrander, 26, tested positive for canrenone, a metabolite of spironolactone, as the result of an out-of-competition urine sample collected on March 30, 2023. Ostrander’s violation resulted from her use of an oral acne medication containing spironolactone for which she had a prescription. However, Ostrander failed to obtain a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) for the medication."

Since USADA gave her a 4 month slap on the wrist, noting that she had a PRESCRIPTION, it seems pretty clear they do not believe she is a doper.

It seems deliberately dishonest to omit that key finding just so you can call her an admitted doper.

If it makes you feel good to believe sweet little lies from a banned doper, then have at it. Just today, off the top of my head, Nuguse, Wiley, Ingibritson, Assefe, Kipchoge, most of India, and most of Kenya, have been heckled as cheats on LR. Have they been caught and banned for using a banned substance? No. Have they admitted to taking any banned substance? No. That is why it is heckling in those cases.

Has Allie Ostrander been caught and banned, and has she admitted to taking the substance? Yes and yes! That's clearcut doping and cheating. The unanswered question is what substance was she masking? She was likely able to escape a worse banning. The anti-doping folks typically take it easier on first time offenders.

Just because you may like her personality or think she's cute, that does not make her innocent, nor should not compel you to believe her obvious deceptions. Given the normal anti-PED stance of the forum, it is insane to me that while there is rampant speculation about other instances, here in this PROVEN case, there isn't significant public shaming. I guess that is because no one sees her achievement, influence, or sponsorship lasting much longer anyway, which would make sense.

Or we are fans of the sport and follow it.

I was just being brief by quoting the relevant part of the article I linked, not deliberately dishonest. The details of how she went about doping are secondary. To her credit, her tactics were more thoughtful and effective than most.

So what you’re saying is, you paid zero attention to NCAA women’s distance running from about 2015-2018. She was winning or contending for everything.

She has a PR of about 15:30. She really wasn't contending for anything worthwhile.

Shouldn't you be cooking dinner and taking care of some kids right now?

take a crack at a marathon buildup, and if she can't stay healthy, hang em up

can't imagine her being successful on the track at this point

Trail running is idiotic and she's a doper to boot. Hope she fails

You know, when it comes down to it, she just isn't getting the results for me to suspect her of actual doping. Like, if she's doping, she's really not good at it. But my daughter watches her on youtube all the time, and I can see that it might make sense for her to have acne prescriptions. And yeah, that's how it works.

She won 3 consecutive NCAA outdoor championships.

15:20 indoors which at the time was top 3 or so all time indoors, and pre super shoes. All American in XC with a 2nd and 6th, 3 time NCAA steeplechase champion and ran at World Championships in Doha. U20 World Champion in trail running.

I plead guilty. I paid zero attention to NCAA women's distance running from 2015-2018. I'm one of the many who don't know who this is. Remove this very Message Board from existence, and like the great JS, she also disappears from view. Is she considered attractive? Is that what this is about? I literally don't know what or whether she has ever run nor what she looks like.

Why do you consider it irrelevant to include the FACT that she had a doctor's prescription and USADA would seem to believe her claim that it was not deliberate doping to gain an advantage so they only banned her for a few months.

Her boat has sailed already for elite level running in T&F. Too many fast American gals and now even more super fast Africans. 15:30 5000 is pretty much nothing these days. Bare minimum is sub 15. WR marathon is now 5:02 pace which is on par with well under sub 14 5000.