Amanal Petros, 2:04:58, has achieved what Julien Wanders should have achieved

High hopes wrote:

Renato Canova wrote:

One of the secrets in training is to have a group very omogeneous.

In Berlin, from my group in Iten, followed by Willy Koskei Bitok, we had the following athletes:

Amanal Petros (9) 2:04:58 (German Record) (previous 2:06:27 in 2021=

Boniface Kimutai (10) 2:05:06 PB (before joining the group 2:11:08 in 2022)

Tadesse Abraham (11) 2:05:10 World Master Record and NR (he joined the group in the winter 2021/2022, improving from his old NR of 2:06:40 in 2016)

Josphat Boit (13) 2:05:42 PB (previously 2:06:34, always in the group)

Denis Chirchir (17) 2:08:22 (had a hamstring after 30 km and had to reduce the speed. his PB is 2:07:17 this year in Hannover behind Amanal)

Jonathan Maiyo (for a test of 30 km in 1 h 28'58") (coming back after 10 years, his PB is 2:04:56 in 2012, he's in the group from the beginning of last year when started again)

Enock Onchari (resuming training from 3 weeks only after 4 months of stop for tendon's problems. in Berlin because was a must inside his contract with Li Ning) who has 2:05:47 in Seville and 4 weeks later won Wuxi with 2:07:19 (and of course injured after this... a good contract is not only more money, but how it's possible to preserve the athlete !).

Personally, with very big groups including athletes with differences in their PB of 10 min, I don't think possible to coach in the right way : too many disturbs, and normally are the weakest creating problems because a coach can't give them the same attention given to a top runner.

Instead, in this way, can be possible to prepare athletes of same level using the same program (with only little individual variations) because the period of the competition is the same.

Thanks for the info. Any chance Emile Cairess has trained with this group? He had a great debut in London but I'd love to see a British guy getting into the 2:05-2:06 range.

From his interviews, he seems to train on his own a lot, do you think he needs a regular training partner or group to fulfil his potential?

Renato Canova wrote:

At the moment the training of Emile is a little bit different from the programs of the group in Kenya. He is still new for training in high altitude (this year 4 weeks in Iten and about 4 weeks in Sestriere) and needs to better adapt his body to a type of training where there are several sessions of long run, that he still doesn't do (also if, for example last Sunday. he ran 40 km at 3'20" pace).

He will run in Valencia both HM (Oct 22) with the goal to go under one hour, and full marathon on 4 Dec. I think possible a race at 3' per km (2:06:36), but if there are not problems in training, maybe also better.

After the HM, the plan is to go Iten for the last period. In this case, all the athletes running Berlin are not in full training, but the group will include Erick Kiptanui (2:05:47), Abel Kirui running Fukuoka in the same day of Valencia, Enoch Onchari (2:05:47) and Philemon Kipchumba (winner in Hong Kong and Xiamen, 2:08 of PB bot very much stronger) both running Shanghai the same day.

So, in this case also, an omogeneous group, looking for 2:06 or better.

Renato Canova wrote:

At the moment the training of Emile is a little bit different from the programs of the group in Kenya. He is still new for training in high altitude (this year 4 weeks in Iten and about 4 weeks in Sestriere) and needs to better adapt his body to a type of training where there are several sessions of long run, that he still doesn't do (also if, for example last Sunday. he ran 40 km at 3'20" pace).

He will run in Valencia both HM (Oct 22) with the goal to go under one hour, and full marathon on 4 Dec. I think possible a race at 3' per km (2:06:36), but if there are not problems in training, maybe also better.

After the HM, the plan is to go Iten for the last period. In this case, all the athletes running Berlin are not in full training, but the group will include Erick Kiptanui (2:05:47), Abel Kirui running Fukuoka in the same day of Valencia, Enoch Onchari (2:05:47) and Philemon Kipchumba (winner in Hong Kong and Xiamen, 2:08 of PB bot very much stronger) both running Shanghai the same day.

So, in this case also, an omogeneous group, looking for 2:06 or better.