Kiptum has been training well .He has been spotted doing some incredible interval sessions at the same track as Kipchoge in the last two months in Eldoret. Perhaps he was just deflecting attention from himself. He seems very fit and in good shape. He will run well in Chicago if he stays injury-free.
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Maxcrux wrote:
Kiptum has been training well .He has been spotted doing some incredible interval sessions at the same track as Kipchoge in the last two months in Eldoret. Perhaps he was just deflecting attention from himself. He seems very fit and in good shape. He will run well in Chicago if he stays injury-free.
Spotted?
Can you share here any pictures or any kind of reliable source talking about that? Never found anything about Kiptum preparation.
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Maxcrux wrote:
Kiptum has been training well .He has been spotted doing some incredible interval sessions at the same track as Kipchoge in the last two months in Eldoret. Perhaps he was just deflecting attention from himself. He seems very fit and in good shape. He will run well in Chicago if he stays injury-free.
Was all of this based on nothing?
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Nick Kipleri wrote:
Maxcrux wrote:
Kiptum has been training well .He has been spotted doing some incredible interval sessions at the same track as Kipchoge in the last two months in Eldoret. Perhaps he was just deflecting attention from himself. He seems very fit and in good shape. He will run well in Chicago if he stays injury-free.
Was all of this based on nothing?
Maybe Maxcrux has been watching Sweat Elite where Kiptum was doing some similar workouts as Kipchoge but at different times (different training groups).
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Anyone know of any Kiptum training sessions?
I'm calling Sunday's winning time as being under 2:02. Thoughts?
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I'm a big fan of Kipchoge but I can't help but be less interested in him once again going back to Berlin. Unless he lowers his WR again, I don't think anyone will really care too much what he does here. I understand maybe "playing it safe" by racing Berlin after Boston to 1) prove to everyone he isn't past his prime and 2) restore his confidence before Paris, but I would have loved to see him try to tackle New York.
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Anyone checked the weather and maybe also wind?
He said he wants to "shake the muscles" before Paris.
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It's strange, but Kipchoge's reputation had taken a huge hit in recent months, especially considering that he broke the world record (with a huge positive split, no less) just last fall.
There are three obvious reasons for this:
1) His age. We keep waiting for it to catch up to him, and it never did; maybe now it finally has
2) His Boston performance, which was perhaps his worst marathon. Of course, after his other "worst marathon" he bounced right back to win Olympic gold and break the world record
3) Kiptum. His London race was nearly the mirror image of Kipchoge's Berlin World Record. He seems like the next big thing.With an athlete like Kipchoge, we're always looking for the beginning of the end, and perhaps Boston was it. Maybe he'll underwhelm in Berlin this weekend, race poorly at the Olympics (or even miss the team), and never return to the form he's been in for the past several years. It's certainly possible.
Or maybe Kipchoge hasn't lost a step, he once again dominates in Berlin, maybe Kiptum has already run his best races (the vast majority of elite marathoners have a very short time at the top). Kipchoge could win Berlin, win Tokyo (or whatever), and then three-peat next summer, with Kiptum nowhere to be found.
On some level, all of this is obvious, but I bring it up because I think whatever happens will seem obvious in retrospect, but right now wildly divergent outcomes are possible.
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I say he runs even splits to go under 2:01. 60:30 and 60:15 for 2:00:45
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theRanMan wrote:
Nick Kipleri wrote:
Was all of this based on nothing?
Maybe Maxcrux has been watching Sweat Elite where Kiptum was doing some similar workouts as Kipchoge but at different times (different training groups).
I've watched that video and i didn't see Kiptum at all. The video is around 29 minutes. At which point of the video could you see K.Kiptum?
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Maxcrux wrote:
Kiptum has been training well .He has been spotted doing some incredible interval sessions at the same track as Kipchoge in the last two months in Eldoret. Perhaps he was just deflecting attention from himself. He seems very fit and in good shape. He will run well in Chicago if he stays injury-free.
I have no idea if this is true, but Kiptum has a history of downplaying expectations and then running really fast. This was his exact quote from September 7:
"I know I will break the marathon world record, but that may not happen during the Chicago race, because I started late training and my body is not yet at it’s best form,” Kiptum said."
"may not happen," "not yet at its best form"
With him making this assessment a month out, it's also not exactly binding. Maybe he's rounded into top form since and run his best long runs and interval sessions since? Highly possible.90 -
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Maxcrux wrote:
Kiptum has been training well .He has been spotted doing some incredible interval sessions at the same track as Kipchoge in the last two months in Eldoret. Perhaps he was just deflecting attention from himself. He seems very fit and in good shape. He will run well in Chicago if he stays injury-free.
I have no idea if this is true, but Kiptum has a history of downplaying expectations and then running really fast. This was his exact quote from September 7:"I know I will break the marathon world record, but that may not happen during the Chicago race, because I started late training and my body is not yet at it’s best form,” Kiptum said."
"may not happen," "not yet at its best form"
With him making this assessment a month out, it's also not exactly binding. Maybe he's rounded into top form since and run his best long runs and interval sessions since? Highly possible.
This guy had a really strange path that brought him where he is now (a top level marathoner). I've checked all his races and performances in World Athletics database. He used to run half-marathons but when he ran them he was literally a normal runner, running times often 3/2 minutes slower than those of J.Kiplimo or Mateiko (just to name few). When he won races they were always minor races, such as the french races "Le Lion Montbeliard-Belfort" or "La Route du Louvre. These are the only wins he has in his h-marathons palmares alongside an half marathon in Eldoret 5 years ago. When he ran the important races he always finished in the top 10 or 15. Nothing Special. In 2022 he runs an half marathon in Al kahima with a DNF and then goes ti his first marathon in Valencia smashing everybody late in December. This guy is still a mistery...
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Kea wrote:
I'm a big fan of Kipchoge but I can't help but be less interested in him once again going back to Berlin. Unless he lowers his WR again, I don't think anyone will really care too much what he does here. I understand maybe "playing it safe" by racing Berlin after Boston to 1) prove to everyone he isn't past his prime and 2) restore his confidence before Paris, but I would have loved to see him try to tackle New York.
I honestly don't understand this pov. If I was a world class marathoner, I would want to do fast courses, and I would shy away from Boston/NY/etc. I think many top marathoners are motivated this way. Why should they be faulted?
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automorphic wrote:
It's strange, but Kipchoge's reputation had taken a huge hit in recent months, especially considering that he broke the world record (with a huge positive split, no less) just last fall.
There are three obvious reasons for this:
1) His age. We keep waiting for it to catch up to him, and it never did; maybe now it finally has
2) His Boston performance, which was perhaps his worst marathon. Of course, after his other "worst marathon" he bounced right back to win Olympic gold and break the world record
3) Kiptum. His London race was nearly the mirror image of Kipchoge's Berlin World Record. He seems like the next big thing.With an athlete like Kipchoge, we're always looking for the beginning of the end, and perhaps Boston was it. Maybe he'll underwhelm in Berlin this weekend, race poorly at the Olympics (or even miss the team), and never return to the form he's been in for the past several years. It's certainly possible.
Or maybe Kipchoge hasn't lost a step, he once again dominates in Berlin, maybe Kiptum has already run his best races (the vast majority of elite marathoners have a very short time at the top). Kipchoge could win Berlin, win Tokyo (or whatever), and then three-peat next summer, with Kiptum nowhere to be found.
On some level, all of this is obvious, but I bring it up because I think whatever happens will seem obvious in retrospect, but right now wildly divergent outcomes are possible.
Excellent post. Thanks.
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Mocazilla wrote:
I say he runs even splits to go under 2:01. 60:30 and 60:15 for 2:00:45
This for sure. Kipchoge knows every step of this course, he wants to break his record again, and pacing should be good. Kipchoge will go through the half at 1:00:22, and hit the tape under 2:01.
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Agreed. But will Kiptum come after with one better in Chicago?
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BEKELE is coming! Kipchoge will get no sleep at all knowing that the GOAT is in Berlin on sunday.
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Why the hell everybody is talking about Bekele here while he isn't listed in any startlist anywhere?
How can you be convinced by this Bekele rumour? The official startlist is out. No Bekele.
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He was also removed from the app
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