He's all about that threshold stuff meanwhile Nuguse and Kerr are pushing a lot harder in workouts with fewer and faster reps. Example is that 3:56 mile Nuguse ran in practice indoors in the middle of winter. Meanwhile, Jakob is just doing high volume, lower intensity workouts...twice a day.
The approaches are different and Jakob's approach might be better suited for races 3k+. Perhaps that's why we saw him be vulnerable to Nuguse and the two Brits. People still are questioning his top end speed and there's a reason for it: he just doesn't work do burn-out reps....i.e.. 8x400m @ 54... 8x200m @ 25...etc...
My point is that in races 3k and up he is practicable invincible because his sweet spot might be 58-60 secs per lap. I would be $200 that Nuguse and Kerr would get smoked in any distance 3k and up because Nuguse is more speed than endurance. Jakob, in relation to Nuguse and Kerrr, is more endurance than speed in the speed endurance spectrum. The longer the distance, the more Jakob's specific style of training (double thresholds) is beneficial in the speed endurance spectrum.
There’s an explanation for all this OP. One size doesn’t fit all. That’s the beauty of the sport and humanity. Do what’s best for YOU
He's all about that threshold stuff meanwhile Nuguse and Kerr are pushing a lot harder in workouts with fewer and faster reps. Example is that 3:56 mile Nuguse ran in practice indoors in the middle of winter. Meanwhile, Jakob is just doing high volume, lower intensity workouts...twice a day.
The approaches are different and Jakob's approach might be better suited for races 3k+. Perhaps that's why we saw him be vulnerable to Nuguse and the two Brits. People still are questioning his top end speed and there's a reason for it: he just doesn't work do burn-out reps....i.e.. 8x400m @ 54... 8x200m @ 25...etc...
My point is that in races 3k and up he is practicable invincible because his sweet spot might be 58-60 secs per lap. I would be $200 that Nuguse and Kerr would get smoked in any distance 3k and up because Nuguse is more speed than endurance. Jakob, in relation to Nuguse and Kerrr, is more endurance than speed in the speed endurance spectrum. The longer the distance, the more Jakob's specific style of training (double thresholds) is beneficial in the speed endurance spectrum.
if you google his workout, there is a work week that he does involving mostly easy runs or threshold runs. this workout is not his entire workout through all phases of training. he could very well be sneaking in some 8x50m all out sprints at the end of his threshold intervals for all we know. there isn't enough training videos of him to know for sure what he does and doesn't do.
He's all about that threshold stuff meanwhile Nuguse and Kerr are pushing a lot harder in workouts with fewer and faster reps. Example is that 3:56 mile Nuguse ran in practice indoors in the middle of winter. Meanwhile, Jakob is just doing high volume, lower intensity workouts...twice a day.
The approaches are different and Jakob's approach might be better suited for races 3k+. Perhaps that's why we saw him be vulnerable to Nuguse and the two Brits. People still are questioning his top end speed and there's a reason for it: he just doesn't work do burn-out reps....i.e.. 8x400m @ 54... 8x200m @ 25...etc...
My point is that in races 3k and up he is practicable invincible because his sweet spot might be 58-60 secs per lap. I would be $200 that Nuguse and Kerr would get smoked in any distance 3k and up because Nuguse is more speed than endurance. Jakob, in relation to Nuguse and Kerrr, is more endurance than speed in the speed endurance spectrum. The longer the distance, the more Jakob's specific style of training (double thresholds) is beneficial in the speed endurance spectrum.
You are a delusional J Ingebrigtsen fanboy. J Ingebrigtsen refuses to race elite 5000m men in a paced 5000m. Set the pace lights, 5000m to 12:37.0
It's true, he only races 5000m men in the World Champs, after already running heats/finals of the 15, what a wimp. Remind me, what's his WC 5000 win record for the last 2 champs :)
Seriously, he is currently obsessed with the 15 and will probably be so until after the next Olympics, maybe longer if he loses in Paris. He didn't even run a 5k this year until Budapest. If your long term plan is like JI's, to get all WRs from 1500 to 10k (he also says Marathon, and Steeple, but i think he's just yanking chains), would you really try to optimize all at once, or perfect one distance before moving on. Which distance makes most sense to start with? If you start at 10k, it's tough to move down as you're getting older. If you start in the middle, you have to move both directions after that. Makes sense in the long run to start at the shortest/speediest distance and move up from there.
Listen to the Ritz interview after Nuguse’s 3:43. Ritz told Nuguse if he didn’t run 3:45 or faster that Nuguse would have to do the 5,000 next year. Ritz has seen Nuguse in practice every day. There’s a reason he wants Nuguse to move up.
Didn't catch this interview with Ritz -- I hope he was being cheeky, right? I mean, he's telling Nuguse that if he doesn't break the American record in the mile by at least a second, then as punishment he has to move up to the 5,000 meters next year? Perhaps you're right that Ritz sees Nuguse everyday in practice and knows something. Or perhaps, as I suspect and hope, Ritz was just joking. But if this was meant seriously, then I hope it doesn't mean that Ritz has some bias toward forcing people to move up in distances. Clearly, whatever Nuguse is doing is working. And that would also be the case even if he ran a low 3:46 the other day (and got the American record).
He's all about that threshold stuff meanwhile Nuguse and Kerr are pushing a lot harder in workouts with fewer and faster reps. Example is that 3:56 mile Nuguse ran in practice indoors in the middle of winter. Meanwhile, Jakob is just doing high volume, lower intensity workouts...twice a day.
The approaches are different and Jakob's approach might be better suited for races 3k+. Perhaps that's why we saw him be vulnerable to Nuguse and the two Brits. People still are questioning his top end speed and there's a reason for it: he just doesn't work do burn-out reps....i.e.. 8x400m @ 54... 8x200m @ 25...etc...
My point is that in races 3k and up he is practicable invincible because his sweet spot might be 58-60 secs per lap. I would be $200 that Nuguse and Kerr would get smoked in any distance 3k and up because Nuguse is more speed than endurance. Jakob, in relation to Nuguse and Kerrr, is more endurance than speed in the speed endurance spectrum. The longer the distance, the more Jakob's specific style of training (double thresholds) is beneficial in the speed endurance spectrum.
if you think Jakob is running 3:43 M, 2M WR, sub13 etc all off only double threshold, then you're delusional
He's all about that threshold stuff meanwhile Nuguse and Kerr are pushing a lot harder in workouts with fewer and faster reps. Example is that 3:56 mile Nuguse ran in practice indoors in the middle of winter. Meanwhile, Jakob is just doing high volume, lower intensity workouts...twice a day.
The approaches are different and Jakob's approach might be better suited for races 3k+. Perhaps that's why we saw him be vulnerable to Nuguse and the two Brits. People still are questioning his top end speed and there's a reason for it: he just doesn't work do burn-out reps....i.e.. 8x400m @ 54... 8x200m @ 25...etc...
My point is that in races 3k and up he is practicable invincible because his sweet spot might be 58-60 secs per lap. I would be $200 that Nuguse and Kerr would get smoked in any distance 3k and up because Nuguse is more speed than endurance. Jakob, in relation to Nuguse and Kerrr, is more endurance than speed in the speed endurance spectrum. The longer the distance, the more Jakob's specific style of training (double thresholds) is beneficial in the speed endurance spectrum.
if you think Jakob is running 3:43 M, 2M WR, sub13 etc all off only double threshold, then you're delusional
It isn't only his training that helps him do that.
Development is linear. He's in year 6 as a pro already. Much further down the line than others. Unlikely he's on this level for much longer.
Agreed.I dont see him having a super long career,mostly because he was already world class in his mid teens.He's had an amazingly successful career as a senior already,but eventually his body will give out.He already claims to have niggling injuries,but he runs despite them,and runs world records,and near world records,anyway.
Didn't catch this interview with Ritz -- I hope he was being cheeky, right? I mean, he's telling Nuguse that if he doesn't break the American record in the mile by at least a second, then as punishment he has to move up to the 5,000 meters next year? Perhaps you're right that Ritz sees Nuguse everyday in practice and knows something. Or perhaps, as I suspect and hope, Ritz was just joking. But if this was meant seriously, then I hope it doesn't mean that Ritz has some bias toward forcing people to move up in distances. Clearly, whatever Nuguse is doing is working. And that would also be the case even if he ran a low 3:46 the other day (and got the American record).
Definitely being cheeky/giving a fun incentive. Also, a large difference from changing events and just running an early-season 5, which is probably what Ritz wants. Though Yared would be good in the 5,000, there's no reason to think he'd be better positioned globally to medal there. I would like to see him in the 3,000. Whether that be Lieven/BU/Doha even. I doubt they'll do World Indoors, but that's another spot for either the 1500/3000.
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