what op really means is that he just wants to see his true potential instead of maximizing his BAG by taking just a cm or two every time.
I don't blame him for playing the game, pole vaulters don't exactly make a living lol, when he eventually retires he will have to find a job like everyone else unless he "maximises his bag".
Maybe change the rules so that for every cm the record gets broken another $100k gets added to the bag, but I doubt WA has enough money to risk seeing Mondo go straight for 6.40 lol.
He competes in a niche event, is a league ahead of everyone else, and every time he sets a tiny PB (which happens in many meets) he is celebrated as if he is rewriting what was previously thought impossible.
Do you want to hear about niche events? Try baseball or American "football".
He competes in a niche event, is a league ahead of everyone else, and every time he sets a tiny PB (which happens in many meets) he is celebrated as if he is rewriting what was previously thought impossible.
He competes in a niche event, is a league ahead of everyone else, and every time he sets a tiny PB (which happens in many meets) he is celebrated as if he is rewriting what was previously thought impossible.
Thoughts and prayers. Can't imagine what you're going through. I'll have a word with Mondo.
He competes in a niche event, is a league ahead of everyone else, and every time he sets a tiny PB (which happens in many meets) he is celebrated as if he is rewriting what was previously thought impossible.
We have seen this before.
Bubka reportedly cleared 21 feet fairly routinely in practice, but played the "1/8 inch at a time" WR bonus game to maximize his income. Yawn.
I actually really doubt this. 21 feet is 6.40m, and Bubka's best was 6.15m. He had 43 separate competitions where he cleared 6.00m or higher, so if he could have gone so far above the world record "routinely in practice", a lot more of those 43 competitions would have been world records, and he would have hit 6.30m, at least.
Same with Mondo, his world records are about once per year, so in other words, he's only in form for 6.23 or higher at most once per year. Quite the stretch to say that actually he's in 6.40 form if he can't "even" go 6.23 in any other meet.
There's little doubt that if Bubka and/or Mondo had wanted to add more than 1cm to the world record at a time, they could have. They each could have probably vaulted a few cm above their best had they taken this approach. But I don't see any evidence that it would be a dramatic difference other than these very unreliable source-less "reports".
Novice question but I am curious is there a limit to what size the pole is? The thing about this event that gets me is that it is largely dependent on the size pole that you use correct? Much like ppl complain about super shoes, but theirs a limit on the stack height etc… mondo or the next guy can essentially use as big a Pole as they can handle(pause) to jump heights no one else can. Isn’t this unfair if there isn’t a limit on the pole.
Interestingly Mondo jumps on the same model and length of pole that Bubka and Lavillenie (the last two WR holders) used: a 5.2 meter (17') UCS Spirit pole. To my knowledge UCS has never made a pole longer than that. It's likely that Mondo is jumping on poles that are a little stiffer for his body weight than Bubka or Lavillenie ever jumped on, but that's the only difference. The women's world record was also set on a UCS Spirit, and I don't think they've made any significant changes to the design or manufacturing of it since Bubka and Yelena Isinbayeva were vaulting.
The longest pole I'm aware of anyone jumping on is 18' made by Altius down in Texas for 6' 3" Shawnacy Barber, the 2015 world champion. Barber's PR was "only" 5.91 meters (19' 4.5") so it's doubtful the longer pole really helped him.
He competes in a niche event, is a league ahead of everyone else, and every time he sets a tiny PB (which happens in many meets) he is celebrated as if he is rewriting what was previously thought impossible.
Mondo was almost created in a lab for the event. If you listen to the questions he answered post meet, he does not jump very high in practice. He has an idea where he is but he does not come close to the height until the meets. He looked very fast down the runway for this WR clearance. He will continue improving as long as he maintains or even improves that runway speed. He will be able to use bigger and stiffer poles. It does make me think about a comment Hendricks made a while back about how he only competes with a limited number of poles, almost dismissing having a large arsenal, which is what Mondo has. There is no event more technical than the pole vault.
Novice question but I am curious is there a limit to what size the pole is? The thing about this event that gets me is that it is largely dependent on the size pole that you use correct? Much like ppl complain about super shoes, but theirs a limit on the stack height etc… mondo or the next guy can essentially use as big a Pole as they can handle(pause) to jump heights no one else can. Isn’t this unfair if there isn’t a limit on the pole.
The limit is the athlete's ability to get the pole to go vertical. The "limit" to pole size would be a lot shorter if the poles were rigid. It isn't "unfair" if Monda can transfer more energy into the pole, allowing him to use a longer and/or stiffer pole than his competitors - that is the nature/point/goal of the sport.
I, too, also hate success and would rather see mediocrity.
Look, the OP is right, we all know Mondo can jump at least 6.40, and has probably done so many times in practice. These 1cm world records feel a little fake. We just want to see his actual limits.
Easy. Once he has some real competition we will see this end. When someone gets close to his WR or beats it, he'll have to try 6.40 if he wants to remain king. Until then he can do whatever the fk he wants and it's just another year he's on top.
Bubka reportedly cleared 21 feet fairly routinely in practice, but played the "1/8 inch at a time" WR bonus game to maximize his income. Yawn.
I actually really doubt this. 21 feet is 6.40m, and Bubka's best was 6.15m. He had 43 separate competitions where he cleared 6.00m or higher, so if he could have gone so far above the world record "routinely in practice", a lot more of those 43 competitions would have been world records, and he would have hit 6.30m, at least.
Same with Mondo, his world records are about once per year, so in other words, he's only in form for 6.23 or higher at most once per year. Quite the stretch to say that actually he's in 6.40 form if he can't "even" go 6.23 in any other meet.
There's little doubt that if Bubka and/or Mondo had wanted to add more than 1cm to the world record at a time, they could have. They each could have probably vaulted a few cm above their best had they taken this approach. But I don't see any evidence that it would be a dramatic difference other than these very unreliable source-less "reports".
I tend to agree with this, people tend to look at hip height on vaults and while Bubka and Mondo have clearly had their hips over 6.40 meters in the air on some of their jumps, that doesn't mean they could clear a bar that high if they had to. Watching Mondo struggle so many times this season to clear 6.23, I don't think it's a given he's going to go a lot higher. I think we'll see him inch up the record a few more times, but I don't think we should assume he's capable of 6.30, let alone 6.40.
On the old pole vault power forums the pole vault brain trust kind of landed on 6.40 or 21' as the maximum height of human potential, that doesn't mean even Mondo is the guy who is going to get there. It might take an Usain Bolt level of athletic talent to get to that kind of height and we may never get someone like that in the pole vault [trained from a very young age by knowledgeable parents etc etc].
Is there a noticeable difference in height between 6.23m and 6.24m when jumping? I would agree with the OP that a cm increase detracts from the awesomeness and makes it a meh accomplishment. Now if he had gone from 6.15m to 6.23m. that would have been more note worthy.
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I bet mondo would be competitive against the current sad crop of 100m sprinters. Plus he can flex his huge phalus and literally dive down into a mouth full of poon tang everytime he sets a record.
What if they switched to a light sensor measurement, and just identified the highest point your whole body cleared? Then you get three attempts, three more for finals, like the long jump.