If you have coached 15 years and have those records, you have had dozens of runners go D2 and D3 so you know as much about the landscape as us. Why would you ask the question?
Yes and No. It is constantly changing and the people on LRC that are within D2 and D3 programs would know best.
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Most of this thread is suspect but I will provide information for those who can use it. The question of where people CAN go is always interesting because somebody has to be the very slowest Power 5 runner but who wants to be that one random guy not travelling akd finishing dead last at your one home meet. I will answer in terms of where guys can go and won't be the worst. Also, I can only go by where guys are today. I don't know if a 4:35 freshman will improve or get injured and stagnate. I don't know how smart the kids are. If some have terrible test scores, they have to start at a JUCO. If any are geniuses, D2 is out.
Most of this thread is suspect but I will provide information for those who can use it. The question of where people CAN go is always interesting because somebody has to be the very slowest Power 5 runner but who wants to be that one random guy not travelling akd finishing dead last at your one home meet. I will answer in terms of where guys can go and won't be the worst. Also, I can only go by where guys are today. I don't know if a 4:35 freshman will improve or get injured and stagnate. I don't know how smart the kids are. If some have terrible test scores, they have to start at a JUCO. If any are geniuses, D2 is out.
1 - Low level D1 or D2
2 - Low level D1 or D2
3 - D3
4 - Lower D3
5 - D3 or D3
All are very good students.
Runner 1 is incredibly smart, Top 10 in his class which has 350+ students, multiple APs.
Runners 2 and 3 are decent B student, naturally smart but don’t put in a ton of effort during school
Runner 4 is a very well A student but has his eyes on D2
Runner 5 is top 25 in his class as a freshman, honors classes
As a coach, i don't believe you should try to push any athlete to any specific division or school. I believe it is your job to present all options and help them fit in a situation that the athlete and their family feels most comfortable and will get the most from their education and experience. The coach is there to help in this regard, not lead/push.
I asked because it makes sense for fast runners to use their legs to get admitted to highly sepective schools but if income is high, that makes less sense because the schools determine cost based on income and assets.
They can all definitely do D2 or lower. Your freshman has scholarship potential. Your rising seniors could probably walk-on at most D1 schools. This depends on the coach more than anything else. Some will let anyone come out to practice and see what happens while others (lazy coaches) don't want to bother with anyone who isn't already a proven performer. I was slower than any of your older guys and I was an XC walk-on at a lower tier D1 in the 80s.
As a coach, i don't believe you should try to push any athlete to any specific division or school. I believe it is your job to present all options and help them fit in a situation that the athlete and their family feels most comfortable and will get the most from their education and experience. The coach is there to help in this regard, not lead/push.
I agree. Whatever level they want to go to, I’m in full support of them.
13:50 had a chance to win in the 1980s. Teams have their entire scoring 5 run faster than that now. 9:10 woukd get a nice scholarship 40 years ago but won't get a walkon spot at a decent program today.
As a coach, i don't believe you should try to push any athlete to any specific division or school. I believe it is your job to present all options and help them fit in a situation that the athlete and their family feels most comfortable and will get the most from their education and experience. The coach is there to help in this regard, not lead/push.
I agree. Whatever level they want to go to, I’m in full support of them.
You're evaluating your athletes college prospects based on their high track results? You need to resign now. Tomorrow morning. You do not belong in coaching or advising students. I'm serious.
I agree. Whatever level they want to go to, I’m in full support of them.
You're evaluating your athletes college prospects based on their high track results? You need to resign now. Tomorrow morning. You do not belong in coaching or advising students. I'm serious.
I’m evaluating what level of a collegiate program my athletes are capable of getting recruited to.
Read the thread before commenting, nobody said that I was evaluating how they will be as College athletes, cause I won’t even be their coach anymore at that point.
If you think that a coach shouldn’t evaluate their athletes then you do not know sports at all.