My fastest 100m ever was handtimed around 12.2 back when I was 16 and In 4:17 mile shape. I've seen Jakob run that quick at the end of a Sub-3:30 1500m.
Ahem. Point me in the direction of that race, please.
(Just for the record, no, I don’t think I could have ever beaten current Jakob in a 100 - I had average top end speed for a 52/1:56 guy - and now I couldn’t even match the 13.3 he closed in today, sadly.)
jogging start suggests you were holding the watch. If so there is no "hand time correction" because you didn't have to react to the start. That correction is about reaction time, if you're holding the watch you can nail the start exactly.
I suppose it follows that a coach saying “go” could also nail the start exactly, it’s only when the starter and timer are independent that a standardized conversion makes sense.
i ran 9.9 100 yards jogging start in practice hand time, which "converts" to about 12. low 100m, due to hand time correction
jogging start suggests you were holding the watch. If so there is no "hand time correction" because you didn't have to react to the start. That correction is about reaction time, if you're holding the watch you can nail the start exactly.
right. like 3 one foot steps up to line.
my dad timed me. he would have clicked the start when i hit the line, so there is no reaction time, which should be 0.2, and the "conversion" to 100m is about 1 second, and the jog start 1 second, which moves the 9.9 to 12 low. which is conservative.
these are the kind of times you get from practice, with the right grain of salt, they are legit.
later on, i played football, and got a lot faster, just from doing it, while getting fit, no mega mileage. i'd have unsolicited black dudes come up and say, "i'm faster than you". wtf
the moral of the story, is i think people should consider coming down in distance, especially if you haven't done much speed work in the past, as latent speed may be waiting to be developed.
and too much speed work early on, red line repeatedly, is a recipe for disaster, and your carear will be very short, after one or two good years if that.
What was your 400m time? You should have been able to run a lot faster than 1:48 with a 10.88, but I guess you were lacking heavily aerobic wise
" ... should have been able to run a lot faster than 1:48 with a 10.88 ...)
You do know somewhere between (97.5 to 99.xx)% of fa.t. 10.8x 100m men cannot run sub-1:48 800m.
Yeah I was gonna say very few 10.8 runners could run under 2:00, much less 1:48.
And no, at my prime I could never have been close to JI in a 100m. I might be more explosive (can basically guarantee I’d win a jump contest) but my best 400m was 53, he could probably run 48-49. No real idea what I could have done in a 100m, but almost certainly between 12.0-13.0.
What was your 400m time? You should have been able to run a lot faster than 1:48 with a 10.88, but I guess you were lacking heavily aerobic wise
" ... should have been able to run a lot faster than 1:48 with a 10.88 ...)
You do know somewhere between (97.5 to 99.xx)% of fa.t. 10.8x 100m men cannot run sub-1:48 800m.
That’s true, but this guy was an 800m runner, not just a random sprinter who can run a 10.8, what I’m saying is there’s guys that can run no faster than 11.6-11.7 that can run 1:48
Would you put $10k on the line to bet on yourself? What percentage of LRC do you think could beat him?
at 16 I ran 11.5 ht, and at 17 a FAT wind legal 11.80. It would probably be close if I trained hard into and through college but I suspect He can run at LEAST >11.6 FAT.
I think right now I probably could beat him in a 100 from blocks.
a bit of background I ran at a mid level D1 school as a 400/800 guy but in highschool ran the 100/200/400.
I have a 100 PR or 10.7, 21. 5 in the 200, 47.1 in the 400 and 1:49 in the 800. essentially I have pretty bad endurance and only switched to long distance recently. I’m 30 and started doing 10k/HM/Marathon a couple years ago.
After college I got into power lifting for 4-5 years and was way stronger than I ever was when I was a sprinter. Never ran a race but my 40 was 100% faster than it was when I ran track and my 100 if I trained for a few months probably would have been in the 10.5 range.
I can probably run 11 flat out of blocks right now and although Jakob is an aerobic freak, he’s not really a speed runner and I don’t think he could run 11 flat out of the blocks.
I’d take the bet.
I would take the bet you wouldn't be much close to 11.0x out of blocks right now if you've been doing 10ks/HM training for a couple years.
" ... should have been able to run a lot faster than 1:48 with a 10.88 ...)
You do know somewhere between (97.5 to 99.xx)% of fa.t. 10.8x 100m men cannot run sub-1:48 800m.
That’s true, but this guy was an 800m runner, not just a random sprinter who can run a 10.8, what I’m saying is there’s guys that can run no faster than 11.6-11.7 that can run 1:48
It’s your phrasing, “should have been able to run a lot faster than 1:48 with a 10.88,” that is problematic. Sure there are some runners who can run sub-1:48 with only 11.6-11.7 from a standing start (surely a significant minority) but they are distance types, and there are your random 10.8 sprinters, and then there are “random” 400/800 guys who are better at 200 than 1500 who run 10.88/sub-1:48, like this poster seems to be. So no it’s not that he “should have been able to run much faster than 1:48,” it’s just the type of athlete he was.
Ahem. Point me in the direction of that race, please.
(Just for the record, no, I don’t think I could have ever beaten current Jakob in a 100 - I had average top end speed for a 52/1:56 guy - and now I couldn’t even match the 13.3 he closed in today, sadly.)
Didn't he close in 12.xx at his 3:27.95 in Oslo or am I just not accurate in Measurement. If you notice the wavelight pace was paced at 3:29.12 for the Meet Record that El Guerrouj had set and In the final 100m he put well over a second on the lights. I don't know, Judge for yourself.
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I think Jakob would run 11 mid/high, and the only people on this board who can beat that are fairly high-level 800 guys, and whatever sprinters happen to lurk here. Maybe like 1-2 percent of the site's visitors could beat him.
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