Ron Warhurst got Threshhold'd

I mean he did lose to a college guy though. Even though he's a sophomore, I'd expect him to be running laps around the NCAA. He's 1.5 seconds faster than the 1500 record, has good 800 speed, and would be 5th all time in his 3rd (?) event while being the only non-4th year or older under 7:40. Plus, pro experience, if only for ~2 years.

I wouldn't call it a disaster at all, but I think Kessler is really good and should've been favored to make the team, not just the final. Hopefully we'll see some big times from him later in the season, I think they're coming.

Proper perspective on Hobbs: Before the outdoor season, making the final would have been considered a win. He had pretty much put together as a pro a decent (as far as a US team is concerned) 3k (7:39) plus a decent 1k (2:16.4) to hint at thinking he could be in the mix for the team. The 1500s would not give you that impression. But then he ran a great 1500 in LA and suddenly Nuguse, Teare and Kessler was the team. But of course Hocker re-emerged, and as usual a college kid who is seasoned tactically and in monster shape makes some noise (last year it was Jonathan Davis). A rough last 100 and Prakel/Wynne who both ran outstanding races beat Kessler narrowly. So is 6th in the moment great? No, but he’s come a long way in a few months. He’s young and has a great chance to keep building fitness.

Very good points

Ronnie doesn’t develop. He manages.

Sure hide behind your keyboard and take shots at one of the most successful coaches in our sport. Get some balls and identify yourself and your credentials. I'm guessing life in your mother's basement hasn't lived up to what you hoped for.

"Threshold'd?"

An apostrophe is an odd way to make a verb (actually a word that's not a verb) past tense.

You’d expect him to be running laps around the NCAA?

2017 NCAA 1500 champ - Kerr Olympic Medal

2018 NCAA 1500 champ - Oli Hore Commonwealth Champ

2019 NCAA 1500 champ — Nuguse US Champ / Record

2021 NCAA 1500 champ - Hocker 6th at Olympics

2022 NCAA Mile champ - Garcia Romo 4th at Worlds

2022 NCAA 1500 champ - Waskom 2nd at USA

If you are the best 1500 runner in the NCAA you either already are or are on trajectory to be a world finalist

You’re kidding me, right? A few weeks ago Gault wrote an article about double threshold training. Guess who was interviewed in that article? VNTC. They’ve started doing double threshold this year. Please explain how Ronnie’s training is outdated when he’s implementing the most current training style.

6th in the country at 20 yrs old, 4th in the country in terms of time?
Don't be ridiculous.
If this was say basketball when 60 guys are drafted every year to the NBA, he'd be a success. Track is just a crueler sport

I thought Kessler raced fine. He got boxed in a bit on the last lap, but he still put himself in position to make the team. He got out well, tucked in behind Nuguse, and just didn’t quite have that extra gear in the last 50 meters. I think if the UW guy wasn’t so strong, Kessler might’ve been able to keep it going into third. Just wasn’t quite his day. No reason not to root for this kid and his coach who cultivated him from high school.

This is hopefully another huge lesson for him. Hope he gets into a fast European 1500 later this summer.

Basketball has 5 positions; track has like 20 events.

Hobbs has a faster 800 PR than everyone in the race but still gets outkicked BADLY? Poor coaching.

Kessler ran faster as a 17 year old than Waskom's current PR. Waskom ran almost a full second faster than Hobbs on the last lap (.99 of a second faster).

At the same age, Hocker was 6th in the Olympics. Hobbs is 6th in the country. A total failure today by Hocker and Ferlic.

I think kessler is very much on that trajectory, yes. 1:45/3:32/7:39 at 19 and 20 is absurdly impressive for an american and unheard of in the ncaa.

Obviously finals races won’t come down to pure time achievements, but I think he’ll refine that element soon as well

I like Hobbs and his potential is exciting. Very.

He is very young but we need to be careful excusing his performance based solely on age. By his resume this season he should have done much better today. The field was fairly weak too.

Drew Hunter got the same grace. Excuses year after year, he was just "young". Then all the sudden a couple years of injuries and lack luster performances later he is in his prime and stinks.

I recognize Hobbs is young but I think it is fine to hold him to high standards. He should have preformed better today.

Both guys should have gone to the NCAA to hone their racing skills.

Times don't mean much if you can't make a team. Hocker made a team when his PR was still 3:35. Same with Waskom. Nuguse made the Olympic team with a PR of only 3:34.

Fast times but HORRIBLE at championship races is the EXACT reason we should be worried. They might not ever be able to fix that.

I am sure many cannot wait for my final review of the race and Hobbs' performance now that I have settled down It's kind of what I thought coming into this, I thought Nuguse and Hocker were the locks, not Hobbs despite his 1:45.80 and 3:32.x. I thought if Nuguse went out on his own and ran 3:32-3:33(not THE most likely scenario, granted) low evenly, that was Hobbs' best chance to make the team. In a race that is 3:35.x -3:37, that brings in a lot more guys, and your last 300 HAS to be 40 flat or better, and that's where it was, if he runs 39.6 (he ran 40.22)he gets there or is in a lean with Hocker, I did not count on Waskom being number 2, maybe I should have. The reason I liked Hocker despite his late fitness and coming off injury , was that I could see in the prelims, that he still had his "hop" at the end of a race. I don't think it is quite the disaster some have made it out to be, then again , I am absurdly biased. I do think there is a point in a race where you have to feel the pressure from behind you and get off the rail sooner and not get covered up. There are lots of good guys that will not make World teams, especially African teams, so there may be some opptys before the end of Worlds.

Hobbs ran about as well as he could tactically, pretty much on the rail the entire race right behind Nuguse. He just doesn’t have that last 100m that you need to make teams yet. If the race was a little faster like going out in 1:52-1:53 vs 1:58, he might have made the team.

I think Kessler is doing way better than Hunter was when he was 20. He's definitely one of the top US guys in his event right now, which has never been the case for Hunter. Hopefully he can stay healthy, run some fast times and also get some tactical experience this summer.