wejo wrote:
Just released on twitter
Is “marathon must be hammered” a sly way of saying “marathoners must dope”?
wejo wrote:
Just released on twitter
Is “marathon must be hammered” a sly way of saying “marathoners must dope”?
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As we are learning this year, there are a lot of 12:40 types. That's only 5 seconds slower than 12:35. Do you think people who are only 5 seconds faster than others can easily run away with championships? We see that all the time. The world level is deeper than ever possibly. This is a good thing.
For the 10k, there are even more factors as most races aren't a 26:30 race.
#1 people don't run the 10k as often at this pace and thus have less opportunity
#2 as you probably know a championships 10k tends to lend itself to anybody who can jog 27:10 pace and kick at the end.
Adri1 wrote:
I'm very surprised that Cheptegei will make his marathon's debuts kust before an Olympics year. Big mistake in my opinion, I thought he would start on marathon after Paris 2024.
Two comments on timing:
Timing of this announcement: Notice that this announcement came just a couple of days after Cheptegei was soundly defeated by Aregawi in Laussane. That's intentional. It's a deliberate attempt by his team to shift focus away from his crushing defeat to generate discussion on something else. His team must have studied LeBron James, who's a master at doing this.
Timing of his marathon debut: Also strategic. His team saw what Aregawi did at the Ethiopian 10,000 trials, and they experienced firsthand Aregawi's superiority at 5,000. They know Aregawi is the new 5k-10k king, so they figure Cheptegei's best chance at winning gold in the 2024 Olympics will be in the marathon. Valencia will be the perfect opportunity for him to test out the marathon so that he's as ready as possible for Paris.
All about timing wrote:
Timing of his marathon debut: Also strategic. His team saw what Aregawi did at the Ethiopian 10,000 trials, and they experienced firsthand Aregawi's superiority at 5,000. They know Aregawi is the new 5k-10k king, so they figure Cheptegei's best chance at winning gold in the 2024 Olympics will be in the marathon. Valencia will be the perfect opportunity for him to test out the marathon so that he's as ready as possible for Paris.
Seems very early to say that Aregawi is the new king of 5k/10k. Remember that he was only 3rd this year in Doha 3k, 14th in Firenze 5k and a non factor in Eugene last year.
I don't think Cheptegei is giving up on the 10k for 2024, the 5K probably though.
Adri1 wrote:
I'm very surprised that Cheptegei will make his marathon's debuts kust before an Olympics year. Big mistake in my opinion, I thought he would start on marathon after Paris 2024.
Why not? Obviously he’s still a major force on the track, but he’s certainly not a lock to win in the 5/10 in Paris, and it’s very conceivable he might not medal. Why not dip his toe in the marathon and see how it goes. If he pops off a 2:02-2:03 performance he might rethink his plans for 2024. Most likely he’ll be on the track in Paris, but who knows. This is much the same as what Hassan is doing. She too is still a major force on the track, but exploring her road options.
Yes sir and I wrote:
Kiptum will crush him into oblivion.
When will we know if Kiptum is returning to Valencia? Is it really easier to break the record in Berlin? Will Kipchoge defend his record in Berlin or go to NY on his pre retirement good will tour? Will Chebet try and run a fast course this fall? Kiptum v Kipchoge v Chebet in Berlin would be a race for the ages.
Adri1 wrote:
I'm very surprised that Cheptegei will make his marathon's debuts kust before an Olympics year. Big mistake in my opinion, I thought he would start on marathon after Paris 2024.
the 5k/10k doesn't make you a lot of money. how many mainstream people even knows who Kenenisa Bekele is? all they know is usain bolt and some now know eluid kipchoge. getting that marathon WR is where the money is at.
If prime Bekele had rocket shoes in the late 2000s of course he would have sub 2'ed and no one would give a good damn about Chep debuting or not, it wouldnt even matter by now
I would bet under 2:02; 2:00:30 would not surprise me. I don't know if it's all due to the shoes, or partly some undetectable assistance, but Kipchoge showed what's possible, and the next generation will make the improbable seem routine.
GettingFasterDude wrote:
"The marathon must be hammered."
Cheptegei will probably run well. But hasn't that same thing been said by every first-time marathoner who ever went out too fast, hit the wall and crashed?
Haha I thought the same thing. Glycogen depletion doesn’t care what your 5k pr is. It could get ugly for him if he “hammers” too early. Which is very very easy to do in a thon.
If his training is solid I think he runs mid 2:03 - high 2:04.
However as many have pointed out many a marathon debut has crashed and burned.
I think Cheptegei is loaded with talent but I'm not sure he trains consistently. I think he lets his talent do the work and the results show this.
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Injury
It was inevitable. I saw it coming as from world cross earlier this year.The Ethiopians have regained their dominance in 5K and 10k (men).Hence Cheptegei wants to move on.Kiplimo will follow soon perhaps after Olympics.
How can they have "regained their dominance" when Jakob will crush them in Budapest?
Mocazilla wrote:
he could possibly run 12:41 and sub 2:04 in the same year... don't think anyone else has done that
Sure as only 7 men have run 12:41 or faster, it is true that they weren’t doing marathons in the same year.
Someone better warn him there are gays in Europe and some are FABULOUS
So why do you think this is real? Why is the announcement not coming via Chep’s own IG account?
Glad to see such low percentage think he will debut the WR. How many times has the marathon WR been set in a person's first one?
A 12:35/26:11 guy should be pretty fast on the roads. I would be wary of him.