it really seems that she could get down to 1.54 or even 1.53 high by august. Just a phenomenal talent.
Keely is very talented. But women don't just drop their PB's by 2 seconds in the 800 from 1:55 high to 1:53 high as easily as you seem to think that they do.
A woman would either need lots of drugs or a pair of testes to do that.
Hodgkinson's new PB was run on a relatively sh*t track at a low key meeting. It was worth sub 52.
Let's not forget her final 200m in Eugene at the Worlds was faster than Mu's. Let's also not forget that Moraa has run 50.4 this year as well.
Mu needs to get racing. It's 2 months until Budapest and she hasn't raced for nearly 1 year.
Mu does need to get racing. Keely is way hungrier.
But Mu beat her last year basically off the couch with little training last year. Who knows what kind of shape or mindset Mu can bring this year. If Mu had the same drive that Keely has she would be unbeatable. If Keely had the same talent Mu has, she would have the WR.
Just looking at her body mechanics, I don't think she is ever going to be a great miler as soon have suggested. Too much knee lift. And, the fact that she has never been able to make a UK 4x4 tells you she is not a great 400m sprinter either. 52x is fast enough to run 1:55x 800s and if she can improve just little bit more, we could see her on the UK 4x4 relay. Kelly is like Ajee Wilson, a pure 800m.
Keely is very talented. But women don't just drop their PB's by 2 seconds in the 800 from 1:55 high to 1:53 high as easily as you seem to think that they do.
A woman would either need lots of drugs or a pair of testes to do that.
Yeah it's ridiculous. Fans act like it's no big deal to substitute a 3 for a 5. Meanwhile that's a chunk of territory. If a 1:54 or world record line had been superimposed on Keely's 1:55.7 run from a couple of weeks ago, then the burden would be understood.
I could understand doubting Athing Mu if she was a surprise gold medalist in Tokyo and did it with a desperate late swoop from the rear. That would equate to vulnerability. But none of those variables apply. She is a frontrunner with freakish prodigy ability and physical advantage over the field.
Are Mu's doubters really going to be shocked when she shows up and nothing has changed? Do they expected her to be 6 inches shorter and wobbling all over the track while sitting 8th in lane 3? Forgetful toward how to make a left turn?
I bet sports in Las Vegas for 24 years. None of the wise guys were bucking talents like that. They were looking to oppose false favorites who were wildly overstated due to recency bias.
Sorry It's about Keely. I HAVE TO post...Whether she runs Sub-50 or not, she's still in 1:52 Shape. I'm using Pamela Jelimo's 1:54.01 and her 52.14 as a reference. Keely has much more strength.
Hodgkinson's new PB was run on a relatively sh*t track at a low key meeting. It was worth sub 52.
Let's not forget her final 200m in Eugene at the Worlds was faster than Mu's. Let's also not forget that Moraa has run 50.4 this year as well.
Mu needs to get racing. It's 2 months until Budapest and she hasn't raced for nearly 1 year.
Mu does need to get racing. Keely is way hungrier.
But Mu beat her last year basically off the couch with little training last year. Who knows what kind of shape or mindset Mu can bring this year. If Mu had the same drive that Keely has she would be unbeatable. If Keely had the same talent Mu has, she would have the WR.
I agree to a point here, but we really dont know what Mu is up to right now, nobody has any idea, she might be is great shape. If runs the 1500M instead of the 800M at USAs that is stupid...same with McLaughlin not running any 400Mh races......dumb.
If Mu had the same drive that Keely has she would be unbeatable. If Keely had the same talent Mu has, she would have the WR.
I'm not sure if I agree with all of that, but it's a sad premise.
I sometimes wonder if Mu achieved success too young. It's a long time to hold interest from a young age. But at the same time, even if she walked away from the sport right now - look at what she has achieved! She may absolutely surprise us all this summer. I wouldn't rule it out. Not by a long way.
I'm not sure if I agree with all of that, but it's a sad premise.
I sometimes wonder if Mu achieved success too young. It's a long time to hold interest from a young age. But at the same time, even if she walked away from the sport right now - look at what she has achieved! She may absolutely surprise us all this summer. I wouldn't rule it out. Not by a long way.
I agree, Olympic Champ, World Champ....what is next??? Maybe she feels like the World Record is out of reach and her motivation has waned, I hope not but we will all find out this Summer
Sorry It's about Keely. I HAVE TO post...Whether she runs Sub-50 or not, she's still in 1:52 Shape. I'm using Pamela Jelimo's 1:54.01 and her 52.14 as a reference. Keely has much more strength.
First of all Jelimo is a biological male. Not everyone is aware of that. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Second, Jelimo's 52.14 (June 14, 2012) was only 3 weeks before Jelimo ran an 800 in 1:56.76 (July 7, 2012) . So no, your Jelimo reference does NOT mean Keely can run 1:52.
Sorry It's about Keely. I HAVE TO post...Whether she runs Sub-50 or not, she's still in 1:52 Shape. I'm using Pamela Jelimo's 1:54.01 and her 52.14 as a reference. Keely has much more strength.
Athing's path to success has always been unorthodox. I witnessed her first ever club track race at Northeast HS in Philly. She won the 1500 in lane two the entire race...in sweatpants!
She also never won a single HS State Title in NJ...because she did run any meets for her HS.
With that said, her handlers always seem to make the right call.
She should REALLY consider trying out the 1500. Like, I know it's a letsrun tradition to suggest someone should move up in events, especially to the 800 or 1500, but it definitely seems like she could be good at this. It just feels like there's a number missing from her wheelhouse to run that 1:55.77.
Why would she move up events if she's already challenging for the Gold in her current event?
Even if we take the most generous conversion above (3:56.5), she's still miles behind Kipyegon and Hassan, and may not even medal if Muir has a good day (not to mention a few others in that ballpark).
Also, this is why those calculators are ridiculous; they don't take into account "specialisation". Athletes actually train for the demands of their specific event, and are therefore much better at that event than any other.
Athing's path to success has always been unorthodox. I witnessed her first ever club track race at Northeast HS in Philly. She won the 1500 in lane two the entire race...in sweatpants!
Why was Athing Mu in lane two? Was there another runner in lane one the whole time? Or she was just running in lane two all by herself?
Sorry It's about Keely. I HAVE TO post...Whether she runs Sub-50 or not, she's still in 1:52 Shape. I'm using Pamela Jelimo's 1:54.01 and her 52.14 as a reference. Keely has much more strength.
First of all Jelimo is a biological male. Not everyone is aware of that. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Second, Jelimo's 52.14 (June 14, 2012) was only 3 weeks before Jelimo ran an 800 in 1:56.76 (July 7, 2012) . So no, your Jelimo reference does NOT mean Keely can run 1:52.
Not everyone is aware of that because it is not true. She has four children. Do you have any actual evidence to support your claim?