Two Team Brawl Breaks Out At End Of Florida Regional

Exactly. As you talked about distance runners, it’s not exactly Kenyans or Ethiopians who fight each other after races.

Investigate and potentially fire the admin at both schools. There's no way these athletes were angels and then out of nowhere this happened. How many of these kids were punks before this incident and the coach allowed such loose boundaries? Whoever hired the coach...fire him. Whoever hired the person who hired the coach...fire him too. Obviously no oversight.

Bingo. I blame DeSantis for both this incident and the previous one with the coach who tried to prevent his own athlete from running. DeSantis’ divisive politics has caused Floridians to be perpetually agitated, which leads to incidents like these.

Nah, this is us at out best.

This thread is a perfect example. All of the cowardly losers making it racial clearly didn't see their track teammates as teammates.

If you have to be an angel to participate in track and field, I'd guess half the teams there wouldn't have been allowed to run. I went to a rough high school, for a lot of my teammates being eligible for track is the only thing that kept them coming to school every day. My team was never involved in a brawl but I can imagine it happening.

I bet some of those kids would chosen the brawl over the state meet if given an explicit choice between the two beforehand.

Facts aren’t racist. Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime yet are only 13% of the population.

Racist for using eyes and understanding statistics?

El Paso had to go 600 miles to its Regional in Arlington last week. :)

...or lack of parenting.

100%. Those posters were sh!tty teammates, no doubt about it.

this is punishment is simply laziness by the administration (not wanting to take the time to view the tape). Because there is a video it would not be too difficult to watch it and see who is involved. Clearly not everyone on tape is part of the fight, some are there trying to stop it.

If I were in charge there would be punishment for those who threw punches and kicked. There would be no punishment for anyone around the fighting trying to stop it, And there would be no punishment for individual teams members not even in the vicinity.

There would be no punishment for schools coaches and AD's unless there is evidence of them contributing to the fighting or failing to act in pervious disciplinary issues.

this kind of punishment is so unfair - but just another way for those who make the decisions to rule supreme. I am sure if someone in their field did something they had nothing to do with they would not find it fair to be included in the punishment. and would hire lawyer to avoid it.

I didn't even need to click on the video to see what I suspected

seems like it's a particular culture: is it DeSantis' fault for their looting in SF and crime in Oakland?

Literally speaking you missed my point. The way these kids acted that day was more than likely a buildup of adult coaches who did not have established boundaries on how their athletes should act during any team functions. I see it all the time now with many high school coaches whom could seemingly care less if it embarrasses them (whether its language or anything) or they are not allowed to have such boundaries by the admin because of this restorative practices crap in schools where kids can do no wrong (And yes I know of instances of coaches quitting because of this reason and as recently as last week). I've coached in schools of all demographics and the statement where kids only come to school because of athletics goes on in all schools and should not be reserved for rough schools. But guess what we did....we set boundaries and kids are expected to follow them to create value on being part of the team. By the district/state qualifier meet those kids are gone who would rather fight than go to the state meet would be long gone so it's up to them if they still wanna be on the team. They've already shown their true behaviors. Boundaries are set where they are not to talk trash, cuss, be respectful, know some people will talk trash to them and it's part of life, etc. It's really not that difficult. Smaller acts lead to larger acts so how did it come to this? And if this was a buildup....clean house.

What are "good" teammates supposed to do, join in the brawl? Sorry if it makes me a "sh!tty" teammate, but I'd stay out of it. I think the "sh!tty" teammates are those who got their whole team DQed.

Some organizations, institutions, and people have a very hard time being smart when it comes to discipline / delivering consequences appropriately. You are right, they have no logical reason to punish anyone not involved in the fight, and there's no really good "lesson" to be delivered to any nonparticipant by punishing them equally with the participants. Sometimes adults try to sell group consequences as having some lessons for even the non-troublemakers, but what is the lesson here: "be more careful about where your parents happen to live so that you don't end up on the same school sports team as a hothead who gets in a brawl?" That's just incredibly stupid.

Often though, and I'd argue especially in our current time where our discourse contains a lot of talk about rewarding or punishing based on group affiliation, authority figures do the easy thing and over-punish: it's so much easier to just ban the whole team than work through a fact-finding investigation to determine who it makes sense to punish and who it makes sense not to punish. With an investigation, the authority figures might have to stay in the office late and actually do some work, interviewing witnesses or making phone calls and so forth. By banning whole teams, they can just quickly type up whatever form is required by the governing body, then go home and watch TV.