story so true wrote:
Like Jager after 2016, when he appeared with comical 5 out 3 stars on the likely doping list?
Ummm, who published that list, Vladimir Putin?
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Eggs against the wall wrote:
Say huh wrote:
Your bias is blinding your judgement. Injuries happen to everyone- both clean as well as dirty athletes. Your opinion is already set, and anything that is said or happens will only further your personal narrative. That’s it. It’s as simple as that. The crazy thing is, you’ve never met any of these people, let alone spent time with them. You know only what you’ve read, and likely only what you’ve read here on letsrun. Like you, many poorly educated opinions are stated as fact here, which only serves to propagate bad information. I mean, think about it: you’re really accusing someone of having an Achilles injury or ankle surgery as being evidence of using drugs?
Frerichs- injured ankle from Pre last year, recent surgery on it
Fraser- coming off of Achilles surgery, training on her own in SF. Can’t see her staying on team much longer
Schweizer- injured at world champs. Surgery again. Long comeback ahead
Seccafien- meniscus tear. Looooong road back to fitness.
This sounds like the injury report for a football team and not running. What the hell are Jerry and Shalane doing to these women?
Now THAT is a valid question.
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He sucks a$$, they got rid of him.
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His one claim to fame in all his time with Bowerman was a fast 5,000. Bowerman is not the place for middle distance runners. Schumacher's training is geared towards long distance track runners -- steeple to 10,000. His track record with middle distance runners is pretty poor.
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Les wrote:
His one claim to fame in all his time with Bowerman was a fast 5,000. Bowerman is not the place for middle distance runners. Schumacher's training is geared towards long distance track runners -- steeple to 10,000. His track record with middle distance runners is pretty poor.
3:49 and 3:31 isn’t too shabby.
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briguy wrote:
Btc is for wrote:
Because Jerry is / was coaching at least one doper. Double digit people have the group in the last few years.
Funny how none of them are running near their peak from a few years ago. It’s like they were doping and stopped or something
This isn't even accurate lol they ran great last year.
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Adios Shelbo800 wrote:
Fyibcdr wrote:
Probably because he didn’t want to move to Eugene.
also I saw he was training with NAU today but i don’t think anyone’s made a thread about that. Thought that was pretty cool
He went to school in Eugene, twice.
Yeah, I love and appreciate my college hometown and have a good time when I visit, but I don't want to move back there
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Incredulous wrote:
story so true wrote:
Like Jager after 2016, when he appeared with comical 5 out 3 stars on the likely doping list?
Ummm, who published that list, Vladimir Putin?
I dunno. But I remember that Jager admitted to being on it, and that USADA started testing him more and more, like Shelburrito in 2020.
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who?? wrote:
Incredulous wrote:
Ummm, who published that list, Vladimir Putin?
I dunno. But I remember that Jager admitted to being on it, and that USADA started testing him more and more, like Shelburrito in 2020.
Fancy Bears. Do a little research.
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who?? wrote:
Incredulous wrote:
Ummm, who published that list, Vladimir Putin?
I dunno. But I remember that Jager admitted to being on it, and that USADA started testing him more and more, like Shelburrito in 2020.
“Admitted”? Say huh? He did an entire podcast on this whole ordeal. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you slip further down that rabbit hole of disinformation you’ve created for yourself in your mind:
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Juice Springsteen wrote:
I’m glad you clarified that this was about Matt Centrowitz JR and not his very old and very retired-from-professional-running father.
YW
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Incredulous wrote:
story so true wrote:
Like Jager after 2016, when he appeared with comical 5 out 3 stars on the likely doping list?
Ummm, who published that list, Vladimir Putin?
No, just someone with good morals.
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Adios Shelbo800 wrote:
Has any reporter asked Matt?
He probably wasn't down with ruining his legacy for the pork burrito strategy Nike pushes on its athletes. Pork is disgusting, so he probably said I am a superstar and I'm out.
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I'd leave a group too if they sided with my ex-girlfriend. It would majorly suck to keep running into her every few days.
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I wonder if Matt failed his annual physical. This is the only logical reason for him to leave. Now he lives all by himself without a coach very far from Oregon. This is weird.
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Say huh wrote:
who?? wrote:
I dunno. But I remember that Jager admitted to being on it, and that USADA started testing him more and more, like Shelburrito in 2020.
“Admitted”? Say huh? He did an entire podcast on this whole ordeal. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you slip further down that rabbit hole of disinformation you’ve created for yourself in your mind:
But he did admit being on the list, see....And there was something within my blood on that day of the test, which I think was in the middle of the camp, that kind of triggered a response on the test...
Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before you slip further down that rabbit hole of disinformation you’ve created for yourself in your mind.
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Incredulous wrote:
story so true wrote:
Like Jager after 2016, when he appeared with comical 5 out 3 stars on the likely doping list?
Ummm, who published that list, Vladimir Putin?
No, not Vladimir Putin. It was the Fancy Bears. You should know this.
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Say huh wrote:
Your bias is blinding your judgement. Injuries happen to everyone- both clean as well as dirty athletes. Your opinion is already set, and anything that is said or happens will only further your personal narrative. That’s it. It’s as simple as that. The crazy thing is, you’ve never met any of these people, let alone spent time with them. You know only what you’ve read, and likely only what you’ve read here on letsrun. Like you, many poorly educated opinions are stated as fact here, which only serves to propagate bad information. I mean, think about it: you’re really accusing someone of having an Achilles injury or ankle surgery as being evidence of using drugs?
Frerichs- injured ankle from Pre last year, recent surgery on it
Fraser- coming off of Achilles surgery, training on her own in SF. Can’t see her staying on team much longer
Schweizer- injured at world champs. Surgery again. Long comeback ahead
Seccafien- meniscus tear. Looooong road back to fitness.
Whenever I see a post like this, I immediately wonder if this person is either in the subject group or has an "in" within the group. Like, I know the post is completely logical and everything, but what interest do you have in defending these girls so vehemently unless its actually personal to you? Even if I disagree with a post, I don't really care too much about arguing with an anonymous LRC troll... though perhaps if it was about me, a training partner of mine, etc., I would feel differently.
Funny to think we sometimes might be talking with the pros on the boards without even knowing it lol!
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Anyone running for any Nike sponsored program, should not be taken seriously. Nike is funding the doping and making sure athletes are not caught. Staying ahead of the doping game. AS was just a small fish in the NIke pond of doping agents.
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