Yes. And she is one of the fastest girls in history. That is a fact.
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I read that she had pacing lights and was 11 seconds off of them for the 2 miler
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Correct. The pacing lights were of no help.
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pacing lights wrote:
I read that she had pacing lights and was 11 seconds off of them for the 2 miler
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Valby 2.0 that’s about it!
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stowevt wrote:
She turns 18 at the beginning of Sept. Most seniors don't turn 18 until the second semester or the summer after graduating high school.
Don’t think this is correct. I bet it’s a pretty even distribution of birthdays from September-August. But if you don’t turn 18 until college you are very young for a freshman. She wasn’t held back or anything.
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go large wrote:
Correct. The pacing lights were of no help.
Did Mary Cain, Tuohy, Decker or Ephraimson have pacers or pacing lights for their races
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Facts here wrote:
She is in 11th grade runs 70 miles a week and has a coach who burns athletes out. Claudia lane effect in motion
Margot Appleton ran for Emerging Elites. HS mile PR was 4:51. She ran 4:37 last year as a college freshman and has run 4:33 this year. She just finished 4th in the NCAA indoor mile as a soph.
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pacing lights wrote:
Did Mary Cain, Tuohy, Decker or Ephraimson have pacers or pacing lights for their races
No, but Mary Decker was the only one who had cinder tracks. Advantage: Decker.
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I agree that her running 3 events wasn’t necessary. My guess is she believed she could pull off a triple win. Given that englehardt was fresh for the mile, shea didn’t have much of a chance.
i hope she has a great running future ahead of her but between the private training group, the excessive racing & the sunglasses, she seems a bit too intense for her age141 -
Just doing stuff that nobody else can do
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Fanagan wrote:
I agree that her running 3 events wasn’t necessary. My guess is she believed she could pull off a triple win. Given that englehardt was fresh for the mile, shea didn’t have much of a chance.
i hope she has a great running future ahead of her but between the private training group, the excessive racing & the sunglasses, she seems a bit too intense for her ageThe sunglasses indoors is so funny - this is the kind of thing you would expect from someone like Cade Flatt or even WesFly😂
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and a 3rd place wrote:
Ellie Shea will leave HS as the #3 HS distance runner ever behind the Marys (Cain and Decker)
New Balance Indoor Nationals
2022
2-mile - 9:52.35 - 2nd place, 8 seconds behind Natalie Cook (Indoor #7)
5000 - 15:49.47 - 1st place, won by 42 seconds (All-time #7, Indoor #3)
1-mile - 4:41.00 - 4th place, 3.5 seconds behind Sadie Englehardt2023
2-mile - 9:49.82 - 1st place, won by 17 seconds (All-time #5, Indoor #4)
5000 - 15:46.28 - 1st place, won by 57 seconds (All-time #5, Indoor #2)
1-mle - 4:40.76, 3rd place, 2 seconds behind EnglehardtBoth of the Marys (Cain and Decker) had their greatest success being privately coached and representing a high school. For example, I would go with, Kim Gallagher, Jordan Hasay and
Katelyn Tuohy the best H.S. distance runner.52 -
Fanagan wrote:
I agree that her running 3 events wasn’t necessary. My guess is she believed she could pull off a triple win. Given that englehardt was fresh for the mile, shea didn’t have much of a chance.
i hope she has a great running future ahead of her but between the private training group, the excessive racing & the sunglasses, she seems a bit too intense for her age48 laps around a 200m track in HS. No doubt she is good, but what does a crazy indoor triple like that really prove. There is a long road ahead, let's hope that those in charge of her running throttle it back some.
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pacing lights wrote:
go large wrote:
Correct. The pacing lights were of no help.
Did Mary Cain, Tuohy, Decker or Ephraimson have pacers or pacing lights for their races
How many of them had super shoes as well?
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Ellie Shea is an amazing talent. But as another poster said, she does seem very "intense" in all the ways she carries herself, even when she does put on a smile for interviews. I'm sure a lot of this is just her personality/manner, so that's totally fine. But my hope is that she joins a college team where there's really strong camaraderie, as I think that will really help draw her out of herself and become more at ease.
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My observation wrote:
Ellie Shea is an amazing talent. But as another poster said, she does seem very "intense" in all the ways she carries herself, even when she does put on a smile for interviews. I'm sure a lot of this is just her personality/manner, so that's totally fine.
But my hope is that she joins a college team where there's really strong camaraderie, as I think that will really help draw her out of herself and become more at ease.
Ellie Shea is actually less intense, and slightly more friendly, than she used to be. So at least things are going in the right direction.
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Facts here wrote:
She is in 11th grade runs 70 miles a week and has a coach who burns athletes out. Claudia lane effect in motion
I don't believe this at all. Provide a link.
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I hope she continues being a beast. Do I think it’s highly likely she continues the trajectory in college given how she trains? No, but I hope the best for her. In the end, this girl will have her pick of colleges and likely make tons of $$$ in her career, so I can’t really fault the parents for putting her in a program with such rigorous / burnout training.
Her Mile, 2 Mile, and 5k get her any college she wants now, if she trained more reasonably she might get a 4:50 and a 10:30 now and these good times in college, but never a pro deal. Good for her I guess
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you are so far off...very talented for sure.... should be a rule against doing what her coaches did... for what reason? a coach's ego?
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