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As he should? Nuguse is a bonafide miler, Fisher hasn't PRed in the mile since high school.
This started off as a thread about the 1500 but I've turned it into the official meet discussion thread as the meet is about to start.
The meet is on live on youtube if you have an Irish VPN. Need a VPN, go here.
Live results can be found here.
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it is time wrote:
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As he should? Nuguse is a bonafide miler, Fisher hasn't PRed in the mile since high school.
He ran his 3:35 PR in 2022.
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Katir dont show his cards but he everything for the shorter distance.
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There will be some months of tests for Nuguse to state about his real potential.
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A big positive in all this is that Nuguse is actually racing in a high level meet against international athletes. I still think that the biggest thing Cole Hocker got wrong in 2021 was not gaining experience against an international field. It's a different game to racing on the US circuit. Win or lose, Nuguse comes out of this race better simply for having competed against an international field. I hope he can also squeeze into the Birmingham meet on Saturday, he's in Europe anyway so might as well
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High hopes wrote:
A big positive in all this is that Nuguse is actually racing in a high level meet against international athletes. I still think that the biggest thing Cole Hocker got wrong in 2021 was not gaining experience against an international field. It's a different game to racing on the US circuit. Win or lose, Nuguse comes out of this race better simply for having competed against an international field. I hope he can also squeeze into the Birmingham meet on Saturday, he's in Europe anyway so might as well
And Fisher, we were all whining that he wasn't racing and only doing time trials. Glad to see he's racing.
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High hopes wrote:
The interesting question for me is who follows Sowinski. I can't ever remember seeing Katir lead or sit on a pacer in a 1500. He usually aims to sit on the race leader so don't be surprised to see him try and make Nuguse do the work
I’d expect this, but I don’t think Nuguse would be that vulnerable to it. This is indoors and that makes a huge difference. I suspect if Sowinsky drops off after 900 or 1000 paced at 3:31 that Nuguse will be happy to run a 28.5-29.5 lap or two tempo before uncorking his finish. If he can run 25-27 again for the last lap to 300m, Katir won’t beat him and may in fact be vulnerable to Garcia Romo. Katir outlasts guys in the 1500, in the 3k/5k he can produce more of a kick but it is not like a Woody Kincaid kick even…it’s more a grinding last 600
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Altitude is too high for a WR. 2s disadvantage (see article on homepage) is too much to overcome. National records are in the cards, but I’d give a <1% chance of a WR.
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Pacing is 56/1.52/2.20
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Looking forward to it! On Viaplay in the UK.
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nitpick wrote:
Altitude is too high for a WR. 2s disadvantage (see article on homepage) is too much to overcome. National records are in the cards, but I’d give a <1% chance of a WR.
Madrid is at 665 meters above sea level. Is the disadvantage really two seconds? That's really hard to believe.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
High hopes wrote:
The interesting question for me is who follows Sowinski. I can't ever remember seeing Katir lead or sit on a pacer in a 1500. He usually aims to sit on the race leader so don't be surprised to see him try and make Nuguse do the work
I’d expect this, but I don’t think Nuguse would be that vulnerable to it. This is indoors and that makes a huge difference. I suspect if Sowinsky drops off after 900 or 1000 paced at 3:31 that Nuguse will be happy to run a 28.5-29.5 lap or two tempo before uncorking his finish. If he can run 25-27 again for the last lap to 300m, Katir won’t beat him and may in fact be vulnerable to Garcia Romo. Katir outlasts guys in the 1500, in the 3k/5k he can produce more of a kick but it is not like a Woody Kincaid kick even…it’s more a grinding last 600
I can see that happening as well, though I give Katir a little more credit for being able to kick off a fast pace. He was 6th with 200 to go at Worlds and left Kerr, Kipsang, and Cheruiyot trailing. Big test for Nuguse if it really is being paced for 2:20 at 1000 - if he can produce 26 off that sort of pace then even Jakob will take note. I suspect it will end up slower, in the 3:32-3:34 range
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High hopes wrote:
A big positive in all this is that Nuguse is actually racing in a high level meet against international athletes. I still think that the biggest thing Cole Hocker got wrong in 2021 was not gaining experience against an international field. It's a different game to racing on the US circuit. Win or lose, Nuguse comes out of this race better simply for having competed against an international field. I hope he can also squeeze into the Birmingham meet on Saturday, he's in Europe anyway so might as well
Agreed. This experience will help him at worlds etc.
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According to this , you can watch a livestream of the meet on . Meet starts at 2:30 PM EST.10
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Yeah downvote, downvote for a neural post, just to show your innate hatred and arrogance.
Even the Athletics Weekly show it's arrogance in the title.
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themildrunmaster wrote:
According to this , you can watch a livestream of the meet on . Meet starts at 2:30 PM EST.It may be blocked in the US as Flotrack probably has rights.
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This started off as a thread about the 1500 but I've turned it into the official meet discussion thread as the meet is about to start.
The meet is on if you have an Irish VPN. Need a VPN, .Live results can be found here.
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Unfortunately at work and unable to use my VPN like I can at home. I'll be refreshing this thread for results and updates!
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