Pete had one job with Brazier: get him to the start line healthy. He has had (multiple?) surgeries and has been injured for two years. Brazier was unstoppable in 2019 and 2020. Pete screwed-up big time in 2021 and 2022. A healthy Brazier would be the Olympic and world champ.
Julian was never a worthy successor to Salazar's group. They just couldn't find anyone better because of the bad reputation of Salazar and the possibility everyone was doping.
He's done an objectively bad job.
Arguably had the most success out of all the American pro teams last year at the World Champs, plus Osako at NYC marathon and Klosterhalfen at Valencia.
that would be a weak argument... ever heard of Burrito Track Club?
This is where Max Siegel comes in as CEO and has an indoor track circuit where everyone is at the same meet racing each other…you know, like a profession sports organization. But no, he has us pointing fingers at each other as he literally does nothing.
Pete had one job with Brazier: get him to the start line healthy. He has had (multiple?) surgeries and has been injured for two years. Brazier was unstoppable in 2019 and 2020. Pete screwed-up big time in 2021 and 2022. A healthy Brazier would be the Olympic and world champ.
This is when I made up my opinion on Pete Julian.
You have easily the most purely talented athlete in the US and you screw it up not once but twice?
If you look at the entire body of work the last few years the same trend. And remember- this is one of Nike's elite group- the standard is Oly/WC medals.
Day by day it looks more like he got the job for another reason than his talent.
Probable reasons which may make sense and lead some to fly across the country:
1. Event director's ability to recruit athletes
2. Win the mile at Dr. Sander = guaranteed entry into Millrose Mile (Gold / "A" level)
3. Marketing of event. Dr. Sander did a decent job announcing athletes and promoting the event
4. The Dr. Sander meet has been around much longer (years before the Podium in Spokane was built) - name recognition/familiarity/etc.
There are several reasons some smaller events with smaller budgets attract better competition than those with more prize money, etc. It's a positive thing that Lilac is creating more opportunities and raising the bar but calling out coaches and agents for sending athletes to a different meet is a jab below the belt imo. Work harder and make your meet more appealing and they'll probably come there next time.
Good points, and again good on Dr. sander for getting the C designation. Idk if it’s so below the belt, when it seems he didn’t know it was C not F and there are plenty of agents funneling their athletes to college meets as it stands. In general, I want more pro meets that are easy to watch and that is the direction this should go. Hopefully a Sound Running type place can take away BUs thunder like happened to Stanford/Payton Jordan. I will be tuning in on FloTrack but having endless heats and all that isn’t good for fans at home, when these meets could be consolidated. Indoor track *should* have a great circuit in the US. Big cities have tracks, it’s a good spectator experience, and there are no weather concerns. Having 5/6 big meets instead of the two we have with 10 bigger college invites/semi pro ones would be great for the sport in the US.
listened to the pod today and realised that Pete 'let the athletes steer the bus' (or whatever the similar metaphor was, is actually just treading the line of 'let the inmates run the asylum'
I agree with Pete that most would only want to work with athletes who are motivated and taking it seriously, but maybe this is an indicator as to why some of the UAC athletes have had sub-par experiences recently, they're being given too much rope when he should have a firmer hand on the steering wheel..... like it's the coaches job to do.
listened to the pod today and realised that Pete 'let the athletes steer the bus' (or whatever the similar metaphor was, is actually just treading the line of 'let the inmates run the asylum'
I agree with Pete that most would only want to work with athletes who are motivated and taking it seriously, but maybe this is an indicator as to why some of the UAC athletes have had sub-par experiences recently, they're being given too much rope when he should have a firmer hand on the steering wheel..... like it's the coaches job to do.
I mean last year he said he only worked with athletes he felt had the potential to medal one day in a global final. Dude had Efraimson on his roster for three years, and while I have nothing against them and they seem fine humans, I can't say anyone is looking at Donaghu, Ribich, or Bartelsmeyer as people with global medal potential.
Guy talks a big game but clearly he's just saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff half the time. A bit of s rule of thumb that coaches like to blow smoke eg Mark Coogan back when he was saying Purrier was in American record shape (PR still sitting 4sec off US record 2 years later), or Gidey's coach saying she would break 2:12 (didn't even win the race) Gjert Ingebrigtsen saying Cheruiyot would never beat Jakob again (Tim beats Jakob less than a month later at the DL final), Jerry Schumacher says he's never heard of nandrolone.
Purrier kinda has proven she was at least in the realm of the 1500m AR with sub 4 speed and was probably worth around 14:30 for 5000m. I also 100 percent think Alexa E could have been at least like a 1500m finalist once or twice. Injuries played a big role though. Pro track is a tough sport.
Perhaps westsouth misunderstood something. As the poster reminded everyone, this clown - knowing he was being recorded - told the Brojos that he doesn't accept athletes he believes aren't capable of global medals. I listened to the interview but will not be doing so again. Feel free to go back to the coaches series if you missed it. One of his gang qualifying for a global championship would be a worthy goal at this point.
Julian was never a worthy successor to Salazar's group. They just couldn't find anyone better because of the bad reputation of Salazar and the possibility everyone was doping.
He's done an objectively bad job.
Arguably had the most success out of all the American pro teams last year at the World Champs, plus Osako at NYC marathon and Klosterhalfen at Valencia. And is the only pro team putting on a pro meet and actually giving back and putting money into it. Some serious haters on here. I listened to the podcast and I thought it was really good and enlightening and honest. He gave lots of praise to his own athletes and other athletes. The only ones who could be offended by what he was saying was an agent not doing his/her job of knowing the WA points system.
If anyone listened to the podcast they would agree that Julian was giving out some sensible information. It’s the agents and coaches that aren’t paying attention to the new rules and Julian was trying to explain why this was foolish. The Sanders meet was WA level F meet up until just very recently.
Hate on Julian for his NOP involvement, but as a coach and advocate for the sport and the athletes he’s done well.
That's just not the truth. Koko choked at Worlds. Brazier choked. Hunter didn't qualify. Raven Rogers choked. He's still coaching Rowbury and Hasay, they've been irrelevant for years. He's done less with more talent.
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